First cycle

[DiaDuit]

Hey guys, 21 Y/O here, 210 lbs 6’2 and not sure body fat percentage. Running 500mg test E weekly and 50mg anavar. Any tips you guys could give me? Done extensive amounts of research but I’ve come to learn that even that’s not enough. Just took my first shot today but still waiting on anavar to come in. Thanks!

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

You should have an idea of your body fat percentage.

Stats more in depth. Training routine, diet, maxes training style etc.

What are you training for?


Don’t bother with the anavar until you see how you react to test on your blood work. You won’t know what is causing issues for future reference. If anything throw it in on the back end but you probably won’t need it your gains on test alone will be more than overwhelming if you do it right.

 

[Leg_locker]

Do you have all the ancillaries you need on hand?
Are you getting bloodwork mid cycle to see where your health is?
Are you planning on doing a pct?
Agree with @Pineapples4Puss no need to run an oral first cycle but if you end up doing it anyways run it on the tail end but the test should be more than enough

 

[racoon4]

how long will you run that for?

 

[kosp]

500mg of test and 50mg Anavar is not sufficient for a first cycle? how did you figure that out? it is a perfectly sufficient first cycle. 500mg of test for a newbie will give dramatic results in about 6 - 8 weeks.

Be careful with high bodyfat % and aromatization from test, gyno comes in an instant and once it´s there, you can only shrink it, but it won´t go away unless you undergo surgery.

 

[rexy]

Besides anything else you should definitely run one compound a time as a newbie. I got an inccreased hr responsed to test that I had to use beta blockers alongside to run initially. I no longer have that issue, but get the same from Anavar. You need to be able to tease out your response to certain compounds and can't do that going multiple at once.

 

[Rido]

The fact you don't know what your bodyfat or can't even guess is a red flag to me.


You should have asked these questions before you even injected anything.

 

[finroid]

I wouldn't worry about it. Taking two of the mildest possible AAS for first cycle is very low risk. Orals clear in a couple of days if you run into problems with them and Enanthate is only about a week's half-life.

If you educate yourself on bf%, you are more likely to answer truthfully "I don't know, haven't measured" than those very regular posts where people estimate they are at 15% and when picture is provided, everyone can see it is way past +25%. And in the end it really doesn't even matter, you should have SERMs and AIs on hand anyway just to be sure and you can start popping em straight away when your nipples get itchin'

 

[DiaDuit]

Sorry guys been super busy.. I’m probably around 16%. I took my first 250mg (1cc) shot on Friday. When do you start noticing a difference? I went to the gym Saturday and realized I was sweating like a whore in church LOL.. might’ve been cause it was warmer here in Oklahoma.

 

[DiaDuit]

Do you have all the ancillaries you need on hand?
Are you getting bloodwork mid cycle to see where your health is?
Are you planning on doing a pct?
Agree with @Pineapples4Puss no need to run an oral first cycle but if you end up doing it anyways run it on the tail end but the test should be more than enough

I do not plan on running PCT anytime soon.. gonna run a cycle of 500mg weekly and then cruise on about 200mg weekly at most. Maybe PCT after a year or so? Gonna be tough but I’m also tempted to run it for a long time and then hit a hard PCT when I want to have kids

 

[DiaDuit]

I wouldn't worry about it. Taking two of the mildest possible AAS for first cycle is very low risk. Orals clear in a couple of days if you run into problems with them and Enanthate is only about a week's half-life.

If you educate yourself on bf%, you are more likely to answer truthfully "I don't know, haven't measured" than those very regular posts where people estimate they are at 15% and when picture is provided, everyone can see it is way past +25%. And in the end it really doesn't even matter, you should have SERMs and AIs on hand anyway just to be sure and you can start popping em straight away when your nipples get itchin'

Lmao I have a rough estimate on where I’m at, just not accurate. As stated above I’m around 15% and I do have AI’s on standby as well

 

[DiaDuit]

The fact you don't know what your bodyfat or can't even guess is a red flag to me.


You should have asked these questions before you even injected anything.

I have a rough estimate but don’t know 100% accurately. My goals stand loosely as I don’t have a set body fat percentage in mind but I want to get leaner. I’m around 15%

 

[Stretch4747]

I do not plan on running PCT anytime soon.. gonna run a cycle of 500mg weekly and then cruise on about 200mg weekly at most. Maybe PCT after a year or so? Gonna be tough but I’m also tempted to run it for a long time and then hit a hard PCT when I want to have kids

Wait wait wait. So you're basically gonna kick off your aas use with a fairly mild cycle but then cruise on 200mg test a week for a year and then pct and come off??? Bro no. Either run the cycle for 8-12 weeks and then pct after and wait a few months to cycle again OR after the cycle do trt at 100-200mg a week while getting blood work done every 6 months minimum and commit to trt for life. You don't do trt for a year and come off as a plan. Sure you can try and come off at some point but it's gonna be the hardest thing you've done in your life to do without screwing up your hormones the rest of your life.

Don't worry and don't get all offended. We're gonna steer you in the right direction but I just hope you listen and take our advice.

The cycle looks good though, just make sure you have nolvadex and an ai on hand. Make sure you have nolvadex for your pct, and look into using hcg as well. Cheers

 

[DiaDuit]

Man I do appreciate the advice and will 100% take it. I’ve heard of people taking gear continuously for years and getting off, HCG, enclomiphene, etc. and getting fertile enough to have kids.. which is the route I was hoping to take. I know it’d be awful but maybe it’s worth a shot to have kids? Then hop back on afterwards

 

[Resurgence]

I do not plan on running PCT anytime soon.. gonna run a cycle of 500mg weekly and then cruise on about 200mg weekly at most. Maybe PCT after a year or so? Gonna be tough but I’m also tempted to run it for a long time and then hit a hard PCT when I want to have kids

A year is too long without significant suppression of your FSH/LH. If this is your plan you should be implementing 500-1000iu of HCG or Gonadorelin weekly, during the entire run.
From here on I will refer to them as one in the same for simplicity.
HCG will help keep your body producing natural testosterone, keep your sexual function proper, and not inhibit sperm production and motility.
One thing most people don't understand about fertility is it's quality over quantity. You can have a low sperm count and get someone pregnant, if your motility is good. Hence how people who've been on steroids/TRT for years still have children even with the suppression they should have experienced. HCG helps with this, also does HMG as a secondary resort on top of using HCG at the time of desired fertility.

Personally I would recommend 12-16 weeks of usage. HCG use the entire time (makes PCT a breeze and it's CHEAP compared to losing your hard work).

Once you end your cycle. I would continue HCG use for 2 weeks, while starting a regular ancillary protocol. Then discontinue HCG use, continue ancillary protocol.

I would either wait to add the anavar in, and see how you react to 4-500mg test, get your blood work done at week 5-6, 48 hours after an injection, and see where your serum levels are (this will also tell you about the authenticity of your supply and how to adjust dosing in the future). Then add the var in later on.

Enough for one post.

 

[Rido]

Don't worry and don't get all offended. We're gonna steer you in the right direction but I just hope you listen and take our advice.

The cycle looks good though, just make sure you have nolvadex and an ai on hand. Make sure you have nolvadex for your pct, and look into using hcg as well. Cheers

Best of luck OP but always have an oh shit stash. 1.5x of what you would normally need. Never go for bare minimum for pct drugs or ancillaries imo

 

[DiaDuit]

A year is too long without significant suppression of your FSH/LH. If this is your plan you should be implementing 500-1000iu of HCG or Gonadorelin weekly, during the entire run.
From here on I will refer to them as one in the same for simplicity.
HCG will help keep your body producing natural testosterone, keep your sexual function proper, and not inhibit sperm production and motility.
One thing most people don't understand about fertility is it's quality over quantity. You can have a low sperm count and get someone pregnant, if your motility is good. Hence how people who've been on steroids/TRT for years still have children even with the suppression they should have experienced. HCG helps with this, also does HMG as a secondary resort on top of using HCG at the time of desired fertility.

Personally I would recommend 12-16 weeks of usage. HCG use the entire time (makes PCT a breeze and it's CHEAP compared to losing your hard work).

Once you end your cycle. I would continue HCG use for 2 weeks, while starting a regular ancillary protocol. Then discontinue HCG use, continue ancillary protocol.

I would either wait to add the anavar in, and see how you react to 4-500mg test, get your blood work done at week 5-6, 48 hours after an injection, and see where your serum levels are (this will also tell you about the authenticity of your supply and how to adjust dosing in the future). Then add the var in later on.

Enough for one post

Awesome thanks man. I’ll order some HCG next order. What websites do you guys prefer? I ordered from HUTECH and gorilla king, which their test results look fairly legit. Irrelevant but also, How long does test take to notice a difference? Like I said I took it Friday (250mg) haven’t noticed much of anything yet. Sure it takes time to saturate.

 

[Iron_Yuppie]

How long does test take to notice a difference? Like I said I took it Friday (250mg) haven’t noticed much of anything yet. Sure it takes time to saturate.

It’s not heroin. Unless you have low testosterone to begin with you may not notice much of anything beyond better recovery and steady improvement in strength. Guys who talk about how within a week they are APLHA KING and their whole mindset is changed are 100% LARPing and have placeboed themselves into meme status.

 

[phenominal34]

Personally I would recommend 12-16 weeks of usage.

This ..........

Either run the cycle for 8-12 weeks

Not this .....


Test E should always be ran for at least 12 weeks....

Sorry guys been super busy.. I’m probably around 16%. I took my first 250mg (1cc) shot on Friday. When do you start noticing a difference?

And finally don't tell us that you have done a ton of research and then ask this question .....that's comical with this question !!!

 

[DiaDuit]

And finally don't tell us that you have done a ton of research and then ask this question .....that's comical with this question !!!

I haven’t researched much of “when it kicks in” and the stuff I have read, is conflicted because like iron_yuppie said some guys exaggerate a lot more than others, Placebo, etc. so I didn’t know what to believe. Internet is full of conflicted opinions. Even the articles on certain types of gear. But IMO I’d rather ask a stupid question rather than find out the hard way