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using GH at 18
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clearheaded
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aight boss, your basing this off of what? bro science? you see bloods of guys who take 10iu (at 18yo when body is JUUUST getting to a homeostasis) and followed them post stopping? lol HRT clinics that do HGH therapy even worn of this. any literature saying it "comes back quickly"? in who? HIV patients in there 50s who are on 1-2iu? any data on 18yo BLASTING very high doses recovering quickly? what makes u so sure, cause u read that on a forum? or even a couch who has worked closely with 100s of elite athletes and see blood panels? or just what u heard? maybe it will come back fully, maybe 90% maybe 70%, you will never know what ur natural levels may of been.... anyhoo, when folks on a STEROID forum think u must be trolling as what ur doing is INSANE should give u some pause. food for thought. not only that, but ur not going to grow taller, sorry. standing next to your dad is not a measurement lol, as even buddy your age trying to do same thing notes his .25 disappears at end of the day. just think, IF any plates are even slightly open, they aren't going to be for more than MONTHS not years that would be needed for any noticeable growth in height.
anyway, dig up some literature about natural production coming back in normal levels in healthy individuals blasting at super physiological levels, ill wait. increasing I G F remember is known to decrease life span, so maybe dropping natural levels after your experiment (that will not lead to increase height), may help u live longer...
anyway, just trying to keep you safe and hopefully inject some reality for what your trying to accomplish evidence is clear in the literature u need to take HGH pre puberty and very early stages, otherwise once enter puberty it does not work aswell, never mind YEARS after puberty ie 18yo about 3-5 years to late to have ANY hope of growing taller.
anyway, dig up some literature about natural production coming back in normal levels in healthy individuals blasting at super physiological levels, ill wait. increasing I G F remember is known to decrease life span, so maybe dropping natural levels after your experiment (that will not lead to increase height), may help u live longer...
anyway, just trying to keep you safe and hopefully inject some reality for what your trying to accomplish evidence is clear in the literature u need to take HGH pre puberty and very early stages, otherwise once enter puberty it does not work aswell, never mind YEARS after puberty ie 18yo about 3-5 years to late to have ANY hope of growing taller.
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clearheaded
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sorry, again, at 18 hgh is not going to grow ur cock lol. yes it can(~70%, get SOME growth) for CHILDREN, not 18yo.
Rubicon500
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aight boss, your basing this off of what? bro science? you see bloods of guys who take 10iu (at 18yo when body is JUUUST getting to a homeostasis) and followed them post stopping? lol HRT clinics that do HGH therapy even worn of this. any literature saying it "comes back quickly"? in who? HIV patients in there 50s who are on 1-2iu? any data on 18yo BLASTING very high doses recovering quickly? what makes u so sure, cause u read that on a forum? or even a couch who has worked closely with 100s of elite athletes and see blood panels? or just what u heard? maybe it will come back fully, maybe 90% maybe 70%, you will never know what ur natural levels may of been.... anyhoo, when folks on a STEROID forum think u must be trolling as what ur doing is INSANE should give u some pause. food for thought. not only that, but ur not going to grow taller, sorry. standing next to your dad is not a measurement lol, as even buddy your age trying to do same thing notes his .25 disappears at end of the day. just think, IF any plates are even slightly open, they aren't going to be for more than MONTHS not years that would be needed for any noticeable growth in height.
anyway, dig up some literature about natural production coming back in normal levels in healthy individuals blasting at super physiological levels, ill wait. increasing I G F remember is known to decrease life span, so maybe dropping natural levels after your experiment (that will not lead to increase height), may help u live longer...
I don’t agree with HGH at 18 but my HGH recovers extremely fast when I come off. I was on for 3 years or so and 6 weeks later
my igf1 was 158 compared to 163 pre cycle.
Fast foward few years did another run around 18 months , prior to HGH this time IGF1 was 169 and post cycle it was 188 so it doesn’t really effect myself at all in my mid to late 30’s.
I still have 3 kits left, I'm considering just taking test and saving the rest of my hgh so I can take 2iu a day during that cycle.
It's just shitty to think I could be pre-maturely closing my growth plates by taking test at 18. Even with a high dose of AI my e2 would probably be high enough to cause closure.
Also considering blasting 10iu per day for the next 30 days to see if bone growth is even possible. 5iu a day isn't doing shit for me especially since it's from China.
Thoughts?
It's just shitty to think I could be pre-maturely closing my growth plates by taking test at 18. Even with a high dose of AI my e2 would probably be high enough to cause closure.
Also considering blasting 10iu per day for the next 30 days to see if bone growth is even possible. 5iu a day isn't doing shit for me especially since it's from China.
Thoughts?
clearheaded
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you know that other things affect I g F right? not an indicator of endogenous hgh production although linked.. ie folks with diabetes have high I g f too.. u can raise I g f just by loosing weight and/or eating certain foods, time of day its tested, what u ate prior etc.. its far more complex then u know.. and truly need an endocrinologist not even a normal MD to really explain it.
its great if hgh production didn't slow down, and as a 30yo we can imagine less susceptible but it is noted in literature so likely more than 1-2% of folks.
10iu is an insane dose, u won't grow.. its not doing much as u likely already have very high natural hgh anyway. unless u take hgh at 12-14yo its not gunna make u grow. its all pretty clear they have studied it for years in kids thats what the science says, more will not change anything..dont think u realize how fragile ur mind/hormones are until after 25 and cascading effects of endocrine system is vast.
better off buying height boosting shoes or save up for surgery if want to be taller.
its great if hgh production didn't slow down, and as a 30yo we can imagine less susceptible but it is noted in literature so likely more than 1-2% of folks.
10iu is an insane dose, u won't grow.. its not doing much as u likely already have very high natural hgh anyway. unless u take hgh at 12-14yo its not gunna make u grow. its all pretty clear they have studied it for years in kids thats what the science says, more will not change anything..dont think u realize how fragile ur mind/hormones are until after 25 and cascading effects of endocrine system is vast.
better off buying height boosting shoes or save up for surgery if want to be taller.
Well I pinned 10iu last night feeling good but lethargic. Will be keeping carbs to a minimum, while using metformin and berberine to dispose of some glucose.
I think I'm going to take 10iu for the next month and track progress, if I do see any height gains maybe I'll order a couple more kits. I agree that I probably had high natural hgh production but 10iu is 0.15iu/kg which is at or slightly above the clinical dose for children with idiopathic short stature
If I get no height gains I'll give up and pin 500 test and just do stretches and shit
I think I'm going to take 10iu for the next month and track progress, if I do see any height gains maybe I'll order a couple more kits. I agree that I probably had high natural hgh production but 10iu is 0.15iu/kg which is at or slightly above the clinical dose for children with idiopathic short stature
If I get no height gains I'll give up and pin 500 test and just do stretches and shit
clearheaded
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I think u didn't learn to read carefully. no kids are on 10iu a day, u must of mis read as that would likely be per week. also remember those kids have 0 natural productions and take far less lol.
looking right now and largest dose(start lower) for any syndrome PER DAY is .01mg/kg or 0.03iu/kg at highest level so if ur 100kg that mean 3iu per day (doubt ur 220lb if looking to grow).. all RX with advise with caution do do bloods to titrate to that high of a dosage. my son, where do u get ur info from?
looking right now and largest dose(start lower) for any syndrome PER DAY is .01mg/kg or 0.03iu/kg at highest level so if ur 100kg that mean 3iu per day (doubt ur 220lb if looking to grow).. all RX with advise with caution do do bloods to titrate to that high of a dosage. my son, where do u get ur info from?
I feel good on 10 iu honestly, I started with 5iu for the first 30 days and bumped to 10.
This Chinese blue top hgh is probably also not very potent. Probably only getting an actual uptake of 7-8iu from the 10iu vial.
Fbg has been low 90s and I tested my glucose 40 mins after dinner yesterday and it was 95, metformin seems to be doing its job.
This Chinese blue top hgh is probably also not very potent. Probably only getting an actual uptake of 7-8iu from the 10iu vial.
Fbg has been low 90s and I tested my glucose 40 mins after dinner yesterday and it was 95, metformin seems to be doing its job.
Tr
Have you tried multiple consecutive test.
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