MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Long term aromasin on trt users
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EmYYY
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HOLY FUCK
is that 1mg/mL Adex per 200mg/mL TEST there?
hopefully this "aps pharmacy" isn't operating anymore
laclark89
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I'm a grown ass man it would would be pretty sad to come on a anonymous internet board andie about my experiences. Finding know it's legit pharma test though
EmYYY
Member
after seeing ur vial .. thats enough internet for me today
im going to sleep
laclark89
Member
Lol me too
I'm not a doctor. And a chemist has no place in trt. I speak from experience dude. I was fucked up BY MY DOCTOR.. lol. Keep taking and report back to me how I don't know what I'm talking because I'm not a doctor. Idiot. Enjoy feeling like shit. I was trying to help you. You just paying for that from your doctor tells me your fucking clueless
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BawlsDeep
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Clearly photoshopped and an AI account
TTK
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You're making friends all over.
I’ve never heard this before.
Could you explain how you know that it’s the use of exemestane specifically that caused you to start aromatizng at different rates, eventually not at all?
How do you know it wasn’t caused by other factors?
Have you tried a prolonged break from all hormones to reset your system?
I’ve used asin for close to as long, in doses embarrassingly high at times to keep my estrogen down and I can’t say I’ve observed this to be the case with me. In fact it seems to do less for me even though I’m fairly lean. I don’t like to play the guessing game on that but it would be low double digit at most.
TTK
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If you'd really like to see he's made his own thread.
You'll be surprised to learn it's a bit of a train wreck.
Hmmm. Yeah I see that now. Don’t see that op has really any real evidence that it’s asin that’s the cause of his issue. Unless I’m missing something.
Regarding the question of being prescribed an AI on TRT... it's a pretty wild trend, but it's not as uncommon as it should be.
Lots of TRT clinics are run by people who didn't train in specialties typically aligned with that kind of medicine. Requiring in-office administration is frequently done to be able to charge for the drugs and the visit. You'll have people getting a shot once every two weeks or four weeks, sometimes, and an AI is prescribed to deal with the initial spike from the bolus required to last that long. They're not especially worried about AI side effects, and they don't care much about the benefits of more frequent administration.
I'm sure there are some people who natively express crazy-high levels of aromatase, and maybe they need an AI from a well-managed protocol. But with all of the untrained people out there trying to cash in on HRT, nearly every ridiculous story seems believable.
EDIT - forgot to mention... people with way too much bodyfat who aren't required to lose some weight before starting are often given an AI. That's a whole can of worms, but there's some rational there.
Lots of TRT clinics are run by people who didn't train in specialties typically aligned with that kind of medicine. Requiring in-office administration is frequently done to be able to charge for the drugs and the visit. You'll have people getting a shot once every two weeks or four weeks, sometimes, and an AI is prescribed to deal with the initial spike from the bolus required to last that long. They're not especially worried about AI side effects, and they don't care much about the benefits of more frequent administration.
I'm sure there are some people who natively express crazy-high levels of aromatase, and maybe they need an AI from a well-managed protocol. But with all of the untrained people out there trying to cash in on HRT, nearly every ridiculous story seems believable.
EDIT - forgot to mention... people with way too much bodyfat who aren't required to lose some weight before starting are often given an AI. That's a whole can of worms, but there's some rational there.
I agree with you on that. They can tell us how to run neat little experiments and how to make solutions etc but a chemist is not normally a doctor that works with humans for a good reason. Its out of their realm.
I cringe when I see someone say 'but I know a chemist and he said xyz about steroids, training and health.' He knows what he's talking about, he's a chemist'
GreenAmine
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On UGBB, you claimed that you were an MD-PhD. I don't know what to believe anymore. My world has been turned upside-down. My hero, @lifter6973 is a fraud...
For the most part, I agree, but there are some catches.I cringe when I see someone say 'but I know a chemist and he said xyz about steroids, training and health.' He knows what he's talking about, he's a chemist'
Depending on nationality, chemist is the name (or translation) of pharmacist. There are also medicinal chemists, whose entire gig is focused on how compounds actually function in the body with respect to medical conditions. Those folks have the background to be able to understand these topics very well, and in some areas, are likely to be more knowledgeable than either a doctor or pharmacist.
In my experience, though, I think most people mean “he took a couple of chemistry courses in college” or even had a chem undergrad major. In that case, you’re better off talking to a gym bro who only has anecdotal information.
Good points in your response to my post @psauce. Thanks for the post.
My fav is when some moron nuthugger tries to tell me I am wrong because he is internet buddies with a guy who says he is a 'chemist' and that 'chemist' says I am wrong.
Its like somehow the moron nuthugger thinks that he is smarter than me on any topic because he knows a guy that took a few chemistry courses and is now a lab technician. I'm not sure why anyone would think that makes someone the authority on anything and everything related to steroids, diet, training and health.
You are absolutely correct @psauce in saying yeah, better off just talking to a gym bro who only has anecdotal information.
that wsnt me you fool
Don't mind him, he's been licking his own acid batches and doesn't make much sense.
I have a lot of fat and have high estradiol during trt.
First thing i did was to inject more frequently. That removed the spike i used to feel after each injection. Confirmed by blood tests 171 pmol/l for estradiol (max range being 161 pmol / l).
My estradiol is still borderline high ( seems like higher frequency didn’t solve the issue) now i am on a diet trying to loose fat see if my estradiol is still high (trying to lose 12 lbs as a start)
Testosterone level is now 595 ng/dl, estradiol 160 pmol / l
I prefer not to use an ai until I tried loosing fat.
