NPP sides Vs Deca

I am interested in your experience of deca cruising.
What are you using it for? Just joint pain and general gain management?
How long have you been cruising with 105mg of deca and any sides?
I am thinking about adding about 75-100mg deca to my trt dose of test for cruising.
I have brewed 150mg testcyp with 100mg NPP per ml that I am blasting with now.
For my next cruising, I will probably brew 200mg testcyp with 75-100mg deca per ml.
Yes I’m using Deca for joint pain relief. I’ve been using it this way for a little over a year and haven’t noticed any sides. I’m in my mid 40’s so it’s a very valuable tool lol. I get regular blood work. I could probably get away with 80mg, for now I’m running 105 and it’s plenty effective, but I have been considering lowering it to 80mg for cruising.
 
Planning summer cycle for bulking and recently ended a Deca test cycle short as I got shitty sides from the Deca. Raised E2 and prolactin floppy knob and mental things was not great. Looking for an alternative for decent mass gains and was thinking NPP. Faster Esther so any issues I can stop right away but wondered if anyone has issues with Deca that the do not get with NPP? What’s people’s experiences between the two. Whilst I appreciate nandrolone is nandrolone it does seem people have different sides on these. Anyway was thinking test 300 NPP 250 Mast 300 for 12 weeks.
I actually have more sides and seemingly effectiveness with NPP. I hold more water with NPP and for some reason it gives me the cystic acne. It is pretty much that only thing I have taken that gives me that type of acne.

Deca does not appear to cause those issues for me. Also, it seems my sleep is disturbed more on NPP.

PS - Never had limp dick issue with either but I am a low dose type of guy compared to most here.
 
I actually have more sides and seemingly effectiveness with NPP. I hold more water with NPP and for some reason it gives me the cystic acne. It is pretty much that only thing I have taken that gives me that type of acne.

Deca does not appear to cause those issues for me. Also, it seems my sleep is disturbed more on NPP.

PS - Never had limp dick issue with either but I am a low dose type of guy compared to most here.
What doses do u normally run out of interest? Just interested in peoples Deca test ratios as I’m almost certain my issues were high e2 and high prolactin related. I’m very much leaning towards trying it again but with maybe 1-1 test and see how that goes……maybe even low test like 200 then 300 Deca.
 
What doses do u normally run out of interest? Just interested in peoples Deca test ratios as I’m almost certain my issues were high e2 and high prolactin related. I’m very much leaning towards trying it again but with maybe 1-1 test and see how that goes……maybe even low test like 200 then 300 Deca.
a general dose when I use is 300 test and 200 deca or npp
sometimes 500 test and 300 deca or NPP
I think most wouldnt get too many sides but I do with the NPP
 
What doses do u normally run out of interest? Just interested in peoples Deca test ratios as I’m almost certain my issues were high e2 and high prolactin related. I’m very much leaning towards trying it again but with maybe 1-1 test and see how that goes……maybe even low test like 200 then 300 Deca.
I've been playing with the dosages a bit but for the last 8 weeks I've been taking 150mg test, 300 deca and 300 mast. I've been feeling pretty good, recovery has been great. No ED issues at all but I've never had issues really with deca. Going forward, I might raise the deca up a bit and then get some bloodwork done. This has been my experience and what has been working well for me.
 
On my 2nd round with NPP. First time I stopped after about 8 days because I couldn't hit the gym much and didn't wanna waste the gear. My relationship was in a bad place too so I was already having mean thoughts and didn't wanna go psycho.

This time around I'm pairing it with Test and Mast. Only been about a week but the test/mast combo has me feelin fuckin great. For the first time in my life I think "this is how a healthy man is supposed to feel".

So If NPP somehow ruins this for me then I'll just have to retire it for good and give away my 10 vials I just ordered
 
It’s fluid retention dude. Deca stays in your system for longer so your muscles stay full of water for longer after you stop
Well yeah, my point was I get it a lot more during deca than NPP. Dunno if it’s the frequency of injection difference, or the accumulated dose from the longer ester or what. It’s not a big deal or anything it’s just cosmetic, so it is what it is I guess.
 
Planning summer cycle for bulking and recently ended a Deca test cycle short as I got shitty sides from the Deca. Raised E2 and prolactin floppy knob and mental things was not great. Looking for an alternative for decent mass gains and was thinking NPP. Faster Esther so any issues I can stop right away but wondered if anyone has issues with Deca that the do not get with NPP? What’s people’s experiences between the two. Whilst I appreciate nandrolone is nandrolone it does seem people have different sides on these. Anyway was thinking test 300 NPP 250 Mast 300 for 12 weeks.

Just curious if you ended up going with npp and how was your experience compared to deca ?
 
Planning summer cycle for bulking and recently ended a Deca test cycle short as I got shitty sides from the Deca. Raised E2 and prolactin floppy knob and mental things was not great. Looking for an alternative for decent mass gains and was thinking NPP. Faster Esther so any issues I can stop right away but wondered if anyone has issues with Deca that the do not get with NPP? What’s people’s experiences between the two. Whilst I appreciate nandrolone is nandrolone it does seem people have different sides on these. Anyway was thinking test 300 NPP 250 Mast 300 for 12 weeks.
Give this a watch.

View: https://youtu.be/Lzqs0XVH0RU?si=5nQlk6VTFmuBQg1B
 
Just curious if you ended up going with npp and how was your experience compared to deca ?
Yes I’m running NPP right now on a cut just as a tester. Been on it 6 weeks ish and got it up to 300 test and went low test at 200. Totally different….felt really good sometimes even a bit of a spring in my step lol. Zero ED issues and would try it at 400 with 200 test but don’t want to waste it. It’s been great and my shoulder issue which I always have has gone like on Deca. So I’ve ordered a ton for blasting but with low test. I’ll add in 100 Deca for joints and drop back down to test at 200 u til I’m ready to bulk again. Also very vascular too. Using P5p at 200 a day plus 0.25 Adex twice a week so I’ve got my e2 well under control. It’s been a successful experiment I’d say. Not forgetting last time I was on Deca I was bulking and now cutting so my diet has been very tight plus lots of cardio.
 
So these guys are basically saying that they never saw elevated prolactin levels from nandrolone (starts at 12:53). That's interesting. Are prolactin sides on nandrolone actually overrated and more of an urban myth which is repeated by everyone?
Apparently it's not common, I tend to believe them since they are anal about blood work since they train competitors.
 
Yes I’m running NPP right now on a cut just as a tester. Been on it 6 weeks ish and got it up to 300 test and went low test at 200. Totally different….felt really good sometimes even a bit of a spring in my step lol. Zero ED issues and would try it at 400 with 200 test but don’t want to waste it. It’s been great and my shoulder issue which I always have has gone like on Deca. So I’ve ordered a ton for blasting but with low test. I’ll add in 100 Deca for joints and drop back down to test at 200 u til I’m ready to bulk again. Also very vascular too. Using P5p at 200 a day plus 0.25 Adex twice a week so I’ve got my e2 well under control. It’s been a successful experiment I’d say. Not forgetting last time I was on Deca I was bulking and now cutting so my diet has been very tight plus lots of cardio.

That's awesome ! I'm happy it worked out for you
 
So these guys are basically saying that they never saw elevated prolactin levels from nandrolone (starts at 12:53). That's interesting. Are prolactin sides on nandrolone actually overrated and more of an urban myth which is repeated by everyone?
Yes
 
P5p helps controling prolactin, also controling estrogen helps too. I've had high prolactin on only test when I allowed my E2 to go really high. That's one of the reasons I prefer going low T high nandrolone when blasting.
 
Is anyone else getting very bad acne on NPP? I'm only on 180mg per week with Test/Primo on top and breaking out like im a teenager again...

on test/primo only i had very clean skin.
 
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