what are ways to raise DHT conversion and lower aromatase activity?

[Amgiji]

what are some of the ways you can increase testosterone to DHT conversion?

(everything from diet and exercise to vitamins and lifestyle all the way to aas)

my testosterone to DHT ratio keeps coming back around the 5 alpha 2 reductase deficiency range, even though my chromosomal microarray said I have normal looking xy chromosomes.

same question for lowering aromatase activity.
(other than lowering body fat or taking aromatase inhibitors. I am already doing both)

 

[Amgiji]

Why is it always that in the beginning of your posts you sound real smart? Then, as people call you out, you start to bring up additional issues and really dumb down your responses?

because again I have dyslexia and can only type so fast.

there is a big difference between have 2 hours to type and think vs having to respond every 5 minutes.

and I bring things up as they become factors stopping me from doing whatever you people are asking to do before you help me.

 

[4Drago]

Stop feeding this VERY CLEAR troll.

Yes, this has become even more obvious.

 

[Amgiji]

You know when you're scrolling through your Facebook and an article appears with some big "click bait" statement? Like, "Old lady eaten by monster"? Then you end up reading the whole dam article and find out the old lady was never even brought up?

THIS is how this OP makes me feel. What a freaking waste of everybody's time!

what I don't understand is if you can only give the same cookie cutter advice you give to everyone because
"everybody reacts differently"
"so we can't give you specific advice on your unique situation"

why do you need to see me to give that information?
what would looking at me allow you to figure out how to adjusted dosing wise?

 

[Amgiji]

You're taking a definite effort if you're trolling. Much like the 3 grams of tren guy lifting grocery bags promising pics at 10 wks and no delivery.

Get off your high horse you don't know much listen to doctors, you've gone to them. Life isn't fair.

I'm not trolling and I've been to doctors they can't help me because what they need to help me are controlled substances and/or flat out unprescribable you can use dht as a treatment for anything in the USA.

what does life not being fair have anything to do with you choosing to not tell me anything useful?

 

[RiceNKimchi]

what I don't understand is if you can only give the same cookie cutter advice you give to everyone because
"everybody reacts differently"
"so we can't give you specific advice on your unique situation"

why do you need to see me to give that information?
what would looking at me allow you to figure out how to adjusted dosing wise?

Because word only mean so much. I can say I diet correctly, macro, and am doing everything correctly. I can say I'm on 10 g of test and I'm blowing up because 2g does nothing for me. A picture tells all.

We don't care about your face. I'm sure it's hideous, keep it hidden

 

[Amgiji]

Your first and primary goal should be to be a normal healthy male? This requires a complete understanding of nutrition. Your second goal should be to do EVERYTHING you can to be as physically active as possible. At the same time educating yourself extensively on physical fitness and start a program fitting to your condition. All this while continuing to stay under a docs care if possible.

You shouldn't be taking anything right now that isn't prescribed by a doc...period! Once you've been able to achieve, as close as possible, these first 2 goals then maybe venture off into gear.

But, this isn't the route you want to take because it's HARD and takes TIME! You need to realize if you don't take this approach you're more then likely going to destroy your body even further.

let see already said that I am looking into nutrition and exercise on my own
and that I've lost about 100 pounds over the last 3 years.

and while fat loss it going ok gaining strength has not.
I said before that I used to train more but saw no results (it took 3 months to add 5 pounds to my rack pull)

so I switch up my routine to do more physical therapy.

and I have never stopped being under doctor care.

I have been doing everything this post says to do for years.

you only hear me ask about aas's

(that's not even true as even the op it said everything from diet and exercise to vitamins and lifestyle all the way to aas)

because I can get diet and exercise information from other places,
I can't get information about aas's from as many other places

and with how much shit you all give me, why would I want to be here more than necessary?

 

[RiceNKimchi]

let see already said that I am looking into nutrition and exercise on my own
and that I've lost about 100 pounds over the last 3 years.

and while fat loss it going ok gaining strength has not.
I said before that I used to train more but saw no results (it took 3 months to add 5 pounds to my rack pull)

so I switch up my routine to do more physical therapy.

and I have never stopped being under doctor care.

I have been doing everything this post says to do for years.

you only hear me ask about aas's

(that's not even true as even the op it said everything from diet and exercise to vitamins and lifestyle all the way to aas)

because I can get diet and exercise information from other places,
I can't get information about aas's from as many other places

and with how much shit you all give me, why would I want to be here more than necessary?

Obese but lost weight. On whatever vitamin you think will help. Looking for aas that will help growing to be taller but not specifically 6 4., and looking to be more masculine. Get a coach.

 

[Dang-1]

Yes, this has become even more obvious.

Man, with the influx of these wacky post I can see why you immediately thought anybody is a troll at first, (including me). I’m new but damn some of these post in the last two months are really , intriguing, Interesting, just wow kinda stuff. Might be fun to put together a highlights real like:

2grams a day tren man lives!
Dbol and drol pre workout invincible livers
AAS users who don’t workout
and whatever this thread is!

 

[RiceNKimchi]

Man, with the influx of these wacky post I can see why you immediately thought anybody is a troll at first, (including me). I’m new but damn some of these post in the last two months are really , intriguing, Interesting, just wow kinda stuff. Might be fun to put together a highlights real like:

2grams a day tren man lives!
Dbol and drol pre workout invincible livers
AAS users who don’t workout
and whatever this thread is!

Truthfully glad you see them for what they are. The internet threads and YouTube are used like facts. It's scary to think my nephew or other might see the ludicrous bs and roll with it. Weed out the shit and take the good

 

[RiceNKimchi]

do you see how when other people said something and then it gets assigned to you like you said it would be very frustrating.

If you're this soft with words from an unknown no forum will help you. You troll enough to encourage the shit. Intentional or not

 

[TheRingloVale]

Man, with the influx of these wacky post I can see why you immediately thought anybody is a troll at first, (including me). I’m new but damn some of these post in the last two months are really , intriguing, Interesting, just wow kinda stuff. Might be fun to put together a highlights real like:

2grams a day tren man lives!
Dbol and drol pre workout invincible livers
AAS users who don’t workout
and whatever this thread is!

He's made like 4 of these threads. In each one, he asks the same question in a slightly different way. He's asking us very specific, obscure, and seemingly nonsensical questions about test and conversion to dht and estrogen. We tell him what we do know from our experience in the muscle world, but he has some really weird twists that nobody knows the answer to. But when nobody knows, he gets all huffy, abandons the thread, and starts a new one.

 

[Amgiji]

If you're this soft with words from an unknown no forum will help you. You troll enough to encourage the shit. Intentional or not

I'm soft because it upsets me that after looking for help for years and on my last-ditch attempt someone else said something stupid and everyone else acts like I said it and uses that as reason to not help me and then they go out of their way to convince other people to not help me?


am I missing something?

are you high?

 

[Amgiji]

He's made like 4 of these threads. In each one, he asks the same question in a slightly different way. He's asking us very specific, obscure, and seemingly nonsensical questions about test and conversion to dht and estrogen. We tell him what we do know from our experience in the muscle world, but he has some really weird twists that nobody knows the answer to. But when nobody knows, he gets all huffy, abandons the thread, and starts a new one.

it's not when people don't know.

if you look through my posts, I've been kind when people who don't know the answer just say they don't know.

understandable. I knew it was a longshot but figured if anyone would know about the androgen pathways they would be here.

thank you for your help

and when I typed in provion this pops up

Mesterolone

Chemical compound
Mesterolone, sold under the brand name Proviron among others, is an androgen and anabolic steroid medication which is used mainly in the treatment of low testosterone levels.

so google is lying to me or we are talking about 2 different things.

either way thank you for your help

it's when people say to do nothing, start lying about what I've said, use some stupid thing SOMEONE ELSE said as justification to not help me, call me crazy and just start insulting me that this attitude comes out.

to sum up the threads

1 my doctor found out something went wrong with my puberty I took enough arimidex to keep my growth plates open but, I will need to lower the dose in now 8 months.
what's the HGH/ igf-1 dose to grow taller I know it will be higher than the standard 3-5 iu for bodybuilding but how much more?

and since I haven't done anything like this before do you need to take it a special way ie fasting? time of day? or orals vs injection?

2 my dht is god awful is there a not anabolic but androgenic thing I can take to fix it?

and since I haven't done anything like this before do you need to take it a special way ie fasting? time of day? or orals vs injection?

3 is there by any means a way to increase 5 alpha reductase activity?

4 is there a way of buying this stuff without crypto? I assume not but I don't know everything that's out there.

5 after my limited time frame is up what's the lower more standard long-term dose of hgh/dht ect for people who want to do heavy sports activities like strong man?

that's it. pretty basic form dose duration stuff. that's all I wanted from you people you're the ones who turned this into a circus.

 

[Live_Evil]

An expert will hold a medical degree and have many years of experience in male endocrinology.

This is wrong. Most endocrinologists simply prescribe testosterone at a standard protocol and make mild tweaks based on blood work. If you met with all of them in the entire US, you'd probably speak with less than 5 that can actually look at complex situations and hypothesize solutions.

In fact, most endocrinologists aren't male fertility doctors -- that role being almost entirely relegated to urologists. Further, these urologists are just as bad as the endocrinologists I named above, although they're a bit more open minded and might actually glance at a piece of literature you bring to their attention.

You're actually much better off speaking with a sports medicine doctor, since they work with athletes using PEDs on a regular basis.

But in reality, the only doctor you'll ever talk to that's actually capable of theory-crafting around complex and unique situations is an MDPHD. Good luck getting an appointment if you're in the US. Good luck finding one if you're outside the US. And good luck finding one in the entire world that specifically works with individuals looking for help with anything hormonal.

 

[4Drago]

it's not when people don't know.

if you look through my posts, I've been kind when people who don't know the answer just say they don't know.




it's when people say to do nothing, start lying about what I've said, use some stupid thing SOMEONE ELSE said as justification to not help me, call me crazy and just start insulting me that this attitude comes out.

to sum up the threads

1 my doctor found out something went wrong with my puberty I took enough arimidex to keep my growth plates open but, I will need to lower the dose in now 8 months.
what's the HGH/ igf-1 dose to grow taller I know it will be higher than the standard 3-5 iu for bodybuilding but how much more?

and since I haven't done anything like this before do you need to take it a special way ie fasting? time of day? or orals vs injection?

2 my dht is god awful is there a not anabolic but androgenic thing I can take to fix it?

and since I haven't done anything like this before do you need to take it a special way ie fasting? time of day? or orals vs injection?

3 is there by any means a way to increase 5 alpha reductase activity?

4 is there a way of buying this stuff without crypto? I assume not but I don't know everything that's out there.

5 after my limited time frame is up what's the lower more standard long-term dose of hgh/dht ect for people who want to do heavy sports activities like strong man?

that's it. pretty basic form dose duration stuff. that's all I wanted from you people you're the ones who turned this into a circus.

You just, finally exposed your true intentions!.
You intentionally shut down your estrogen to keep your growth plates open ( mega dose adex). You want to get tail, manly, and do strongman! Yet you called everyone liars!

Please give me a protocol, with dosages and direction. Please give me source information. And please tell me how to buy everything!

You're a newbie. Read the dam rules!

 

[Amgiji]

You just, finally exposed your true intentions!.
You intentionally shut down your estrogen to keep your growth plates open ( mega dose adex). You want to get tail, manly, and do strongman! Yet you called everyone liars!

Please give me a protocol, with dosages and direction. Please give me source information. And please tell me how to buy everything!

You're a newbie. Read the dam rules!

1 I yelled at you for bring up other threads that weren't relevant before, I was listing a summery on them as I needed to correct @TheRingloVale
does context mean anything to you?

2 said I wanted to get taller and more manly multiple times in this thread even to you specifically already it wasn't a secret, literally post #20

thank you for answering my question at the end. "if it was possible to increase 5 alpha reductase activity."

but to clarify and I have said several times "

I said my doctor figured out something went wrong with my puberty and I went on an aromatase inhibitor to keep my growth plates open.

but, I needed to take so much because even 5 mg of topical testosterone cream made my estradiol go from the normal range of 25 pg/ml to 60 pg/ml.

so I needed to use an "unhealthy mega dose" to even be at decent TRT level of testosterone anyway.

you are a liar because you keep making up details that never happened and assigning other people's actions to me, an example from the other thread it was @dafqu1 that said I was xxy

just be honest if u are a fat klinefelter neet. The advice remains the same: u can take steroids to increase androgenic and anabolic developement. Its not magic if u want muscles u still need to train and eat right. Also after puberty increasing androgenic dht will still increase 2nd male sex chars somewhat but its more likely to make u lose your hair blow up your prostate and age rapidly than give u a better jawline or something.

you schizo.

and lastly, I asked about sources in the underground sub forum first when I could post there, link

HERE

before someone got pissy about me saying that private owned phrma grade hrt clinics are overpriced something most people here would agree with and took away my permission to post on my own thread.

so no, I haven't been source trolling.

if that's not the issue, please do tell what rule(s) am I not following?

 

[Amgiji]

If you're this soft with words from an unknown no forum will help you. You troll enough to encourage the shit. Intentional or not

side note @RiceNKimchi still waiting for you to tell me what these "regular used ranges for dosing" that you said you could tell me three weeks ago.

Your body is not ours some can run test at 500 with no estrogen problems. Many can't. Tren makes some emotionally unstable. Others feel great on tren. You're looking for a fit all solution and the fact is, it does not work like that. You can get regular used ranges of dose but other than that you're guessing how your body will respond.

 

[I6JQdr06]

in general no, I live in an area with few opportunities, with people who don't know how anything made after 1985 works.

but the not being able to figure out how technology works is my problem I just don't know what to do about it.

If you have access to this web forum you also have access to every bit of information you’ll ever need. You can learn anything you want, you can be anyone you want to be.

1 my doctor found out something went wrong with my puberty I took enough arimidex to keep my growth plates open but, I will need to lower the dose in now 8 months.
what's the HGH/ igf-1 dose to grow taller I know it will be higher than the standard 3-5 iu for bodybuilding but how much more?

HGH doses for growth during puberty are easy to Google:

Usual Pediatric Dose for Idiopathic Short Stature​

Up to 0.053 mg/kg subcutaneously once a day

2 my dht is god awful is there a not anabolic but androgenic thing I can take to fix it?

Proviron or Masteron

3 is there by any means a way to increase 5 alpha reductase activity?

No

4 is there a way of buying this stuff without crypto? I assume not but I don't know everything that's out there.

Yes. Look at the underground forum here.

5 after my limited time frame is up what's the lower more standard long-term dose of hgh/dht ect for people who want to do heavy sports activities like strong man?

Worry about that once you get there.

A couple of points:

1) growth hormone is really expensive. If you have idiopathic short stature and you’re in a position where GH can help with that, you should be able to get it prescribed. I don’t know what country you’re in but where I live prescriptions are free of charge.

2) I’d choose proviron over Masteron. It’s a pill rather than an injection. It sounds like you live with your parents and you don’t want them finding needles/syringes and assuming the worst.

This really is pretty much the only advice you’ll be able to get here.

 

[dafqu1]

ur delusional if u think someone is going to completely spoonfeed u bro. I6j covered it but you should have been able to intuit that yourself. Noone knows anything about this kind of stuff, its unexplored territory because theres no vested interest in improving masculinity or even acknowledging it. The majority of advancement and scientific knowledge is from like 80 years ago. There is no chemist genius master mind whos gonna spoonfeed you a magic recipe to grow to 6,5 resensitize ur weiner to androgens and fix how your klinefelter body doesnt convert dht, and if there was what makes you think they would help? pity? u got to know by now thats not how the world works right? You need to be careful of scammers pming you btw cuz youve broadcasted to everyone ur a desperate idiot who cant read much and doesnt know much. Ig you really want to be spoonfed completely you should consider transitioning to a women instead. Of course when it comes to that doctors know ALL about hormones and the best combo of estrogen and progesterone to turn you into the best bimbo you can be.

 

[Amgiji]

ur delusional if u think someone is going to completely spoonfeed u bro. I6j covered it but you should have been able to intuit that yourself. Noone knows anything about this kind of stuff, its unexplored territory because theres no vested interest in improving masculinity or even acknowledging it. The majority of advancement and scientific knowledge is from like 80 years ago. There is no chemist genius master mind whos gonna spoonfeed you a magic recipe to grow to 6,5 resensitize ur weiner to androgens and fix how your klinefelter body doesnt convert dht, and if there was what makes you think they would help? pity? u got to know by now thats not how the world works right? You need to be careful of scammers pming you btw cuz youve broadcasted to everyone ur a desperate idiot who cant read much and doesnt know much. Ig you really want to be spoonfed completely you should consider transitioning to a women instead. Of course when it comes to that doctors know ALL about hormones and the best combo of estrogen and progesterone to turn you into the best bimbo you can be.

if you can't look any of this up because there's no scientific research interest and it's illegal in most places,
you can't use the information from the people here who didn't end up killing themselves "because everybody responds differently" and have the attuited of "you just need to figure it out for yourself".

if you need to go in completely blind and just hope it works out and even if you survive, any information you document is unusable to anyone else, why does this forum even exist?

ur a desperate idiot who cant read much

this is what I mean with making up details.

how does me correcting people for misattributing what other people said to me because they can't read the op's username for 4 pages indicate that I'm the one who can't read?