deadinside
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Do you guys know what is best for ligaments/joints? Cause if there is a steroid version of that, I am going to live on it.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Best possible thing for ligaments and joints?
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Deca helps
Whopperflopper
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Yes, Deca. I don't know how it works, probably has anti inflammatory properties, Xtra water....
About 100 mg a week is a good start, personally I wouldn't touch it without Test being 2x that.
not for heart
deadinside
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Thanks everyone. It seems to work pretty well. May add 100 tops to my 300ish T
RiceNKimchi
Member
Estrogen worked for me. I felt much better running in the higher end of the spectrum vs before when I would drop it lower.
deadinside
New Member
Really? Higher estrogen? Interesting. Whyso?
RiceNKimchi
Member
Just being on trt, I'm the same age as you, I use to dial in my ai a little too much is my thought. I switched to e3d aromasin and raised my values up some, according to bloods, and it helped with my joints.
deadinside
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Thanks for the advice. My problem may be related to me pushing too far from my estrogen. Going to maybe get off of my blocker and see how the results go
I know of no steroids' or anything else that has been shown it real world situations to cause collagen,tendon growth to any noticeable degree. If there was guys wouldn't be getting injured or wearing their joints out as they lift over the years. Most studies are all done in vitro. Good nutrition, form and exercise choice will most likely get you farther down the road to joint health. Every person i know that has lifted heavy for 10 or 20 years has issues. That is just part of the game sadly enough.
Higher estrogen levels are associated with a greater degree of tendon laxity
Effect of Estrogen on Musculoskeletal Performance and Injury Risk
Estrogen has a dramatic effect on musculoskeletal function. Beyond the known relationship between estrogen and bone, it directly affects the structure and function of other musculoskeletal tissues such as muscle, tendon, and ligament. In these other musculoskeletal ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Bpc157 & gh & tb500…. Plus as stayed before no more bro science let ur estrogen creep up a bit… maybe some cissus ?
I'm currently using Anavar (10mg/day), Primo (10mg/day subq) for collagen synthesis. I'm also on 1iu of hgh per day for the same purpose. I did some research on collagen synthesis and found many different opinions and studies. Some say it is bro science, but there are also some animal researchs that supports this. I have also watched a video from fitness youtuber about this, but i don't know if it is okay to mention his name here.
Besides this, i am also taking some otc supplements:
-vitamin D (5000iu/day)
-vitamin C (1000-2000iu/day)
-Collagen (20g/day)
-Collagen type II (40mg/day)
-magnesium (1000mg/day)
-zinc (25mg/day)
-boswellia (600mg/day)
-curcumin (900mg/day)
Not claiming anything, these are all information i found in my reasearch, and i decided to try this protocol. I'm 2 months in, and my shoulder pain got better a lot. I also feel less stiffnes in my joints and they feel more flexible. I'll continue for 4 more months and see where it gets me.
Oh, and i also take testosterone and hcg with this protocol. 175mg of test and 750iu hcg/week. I am administering 25mg of test every day subq and hcg 250iu three times a week.
Besides this, i am also taking some otc supplements:
-vitamin D (5000iu/day)
-vitamin C (1000-2000iu/day)
-Collagen (20g/day)
-Collagen type II (40mg/day)
-magnesium (1000mg/day)
-zinc (25mg/day)
-boswellia (600mg/day)
-curcumin (900mg/day)
Not claiming anything, these are all information i found in my reasearch, and i decided to try this protocol. I'm 2 months in, and my shoulder pain got better a lot. I also feel less stiffnes in my joints and they feel more flexible. I'll continue for 4 more months and see where it gets me.
Oh, and i also take testosterone and hcg with this protocol. 175mg of test and 750iu hcg/week. I am administering 25mg of test every day subq and hcg 250iu three times a week.
clearheaded
Member
omegas,msm, some older folks say collagen really helped them however I think if eat enough meat shouldn't notice too much from that. probiotics are good for inflammation. vitamin K can help put calcium were it needs to be aswell.
I would say in general mega dosing should be avoided.. think more info will be coming out on this in coming years but unless deficient no purpose and may cause harm ie mega dose of harmless vitamin C can increase absorption of iron which of course is a potent OXIDANT so bit of a paradox, take something for antioxidant properties but may actually be causing more oxidation or at least some..
I know I say this alot but I think future will be cycling vitamins ie 5000iu vitamin D is probably too high if eat good and alot of eggs and outside alot. but perhaps that dose 2-3X a week if live in dark place during winter and taken with vitamin K to help not cause calcium build up in your arteries.
I would say in general mega dosing should be avoided.. think more info will be coming out on this in coming years but unless deficient no purpose and may cause harm ie mega dose of harmless vitamin C can increase absorption of iron which of course is a potent OXIDANT so bit of a paradox, take something for antioxidant properties but may actually be causing more oxidation or at least some..
I know I say this alot but I think future will be cycling vitamins ie 5000iu vitamin D is probably too high if eat good and alot of eggs and outside alot. but perhaps that dose 2-3X a week if live in dark place during winter and taken with vitamin K to help not cause calcium build up in your arteries.
K
klokke23
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2 IU HGH is the best my joints have felt and my joints ain't even bad. I was dive bombing 440 on squats completely ass to grass without issue. Today I can't divebomb like that and it doesn't feel super safe to go that deep anymore.
ThinkDeroid
Banned
I have tendonitis / De Quervain in one of my wrist and nothing really helped, no HGH injected directly into the tendon, no BPC injected directly into the tendon.
What helped was a Cortisone injection and then just waiting and no more dumbbells. Now, a year later there is still pain if I move the hand in a certain way but it is much better and the "hole" which was there seem to have healed as well. So, the best thing for serious injury is unfortunately only time.
What helped was a Cortisone injection and then just waiting and no more dumbbells. Now, a year later there is still pain if I move the hand in a certain way but it is much better and the "hole" which was there seem to have healed as well. So, the best thing for serious injury is unfortunately only time.
Fattyone
Member
Take a peak at this thread. A few replies to basically the same question
Best possible thing for ligaments and joints?
Do you guys know what is best for ligaments/joints? Cause if there is a steroid version of that, I am going to live on it.
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tripod3000
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I have had good results with BPC-157
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