I ran npp once about 5 years ago and never had an issue. I recently started a bulk cycle about 2 weeks ago with sus and about 280 of npp. For the past week I have been having a pretty significant increase in my baseline anxiety. It comes and goes during the day but at night it's pretty bad. When I ran it during my early 20s I had zero issues so I didn't think this would happen. I'm definitely pulling it to see if symptoms subside. How long would it take for effects to wear off. I'm grateful it's a short ester but not sure how long it will take once I pull it
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Anxiety from npp
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Fattyone
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My anxiety started easing off around 4/5 days post last injection. And back to “normal” a week or two later. I was only running about 380mg a week
Not from personal experience, but I've heard a decent amount of guys initially use 19-nors with no issue, but when they use them years later they end up getting bad anxiety. I'm not sure what the science is behind this, but it's enough for me to not really want to fuck with them anymore. If you're putting something in your body that's fucking with your brain, I'd say it's probably not a good idea to continue you using it. Just my two cents.
And then there are guys like me who has used NPP and Deca many times over the years with no psych issues. Thats why when a post like this comes up, I can't relate.
Fattyone
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You’re probably “normal”. I’d be willing to bet the guys who have the issues on cycle have issues off cycle. I’m fucked up, drugs make it worse. My “normal” is still not normal though.
Also a good point to make. There's only so much research on some of these AAS that we can draw from to make (rough) conclusions. In the end its up to the user to determine the risk/reward ratio. For some, 19-nors can be an absolute gamechanger in regards to desired aesthetics, for others, it can ruin their life (even if it's only temporarily). That's why I like this board, there are TONS of anecdotes to draw information from along with more scientific resources. Ultimately, that's what harm reduction is about.
There's a lot of truth in what you say. I would say a "damaged" individual probably needs to rethink using most AAS. I would say then that's what makes a test only cycle for some the only option. It really all comes down to individual risk and reward, and being able to be honest with oneself in terms of what is ok to use, and what is not.
AbstractMind
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Definitely me
AbstractMind
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What I do when this happens is just lower the dose until it’s bearable. Even if it’s 150mg per week, I actually still get decent effects. For something like tren, 10mg or so per day still gets me some positive effects. Give it a shot maybe.
Fattyone
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I’m sure it’s not the smartest and definitely not the best practice when using, but I’m trying out “pulsing” for lack of better words NPP.
Running it until I feel the anxiety getting to a point where it’s about to go south (thanks to years of anxiety I’m pretty intune with what thoughts/worries/fears happen in almost a linear fashion and know when it’s about to get bad) and then pulling it for a bit and getting back to normal.
Still definitely a new thing, currently on my first “back to normal” phase after originally dropping it and picking it back up after thinking of this idea. I’ll reintroduce it soon and hopefully run it for the last few weeks of my blast.
Figure I’ve already bought a bunch and if it helps build anything it’ll be worth it. If not, it’s a good lesson in acknowledging the building anxiety and working back out of it haha
Trades
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Very interested to hear how this outside the box NPP protocol plays out for you.
I love the physical effects of nand but I'm over the mental stuff. I do notice that the mental stuff takes a few weeks to "come up", so maybe you have something here.
I ran NPP for the first time awhile back. Loved it, great results...until the anxiety hit me at 9 or 10 weeks in. It got really bad, really fast. Pulled it and about a week later still had a little anxiety. I'd say around 2 weeks I was back to normal.
Everyone reacts different to compounds obviously. I started using masterone p for the first time. It has been giving me an intense feeling of well-being...almost like some say they experience with dbol. Makes me wonder if my anxiety issues have been estrogen related all along.
Never had any issues with Nandrolones.
Never had any issues with Nandrolones.
Justaguy99
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Npp or deca and test week 8 plus my bp and anxiety sky rocket.
But look awesome.
Tried cycle with 200mg Mast and felt amazing.
500T/200Deca/200mast
But look awesome.
Tried cycle with 200mg Mast and felt amazing.
500T/200Deca/200mast
phenominal34
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Does anyone besides me not have anxiety around here ? Do you guys just sit around and worry all day long about things you can’t change? I don’t get it, the word is used day in and day out ?!
Trades
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it's a thread about anxiety. by "anyone" do you the small handful of people that have commented already, or do you mean the however-many-people on this forum that haven't commented because the topic doesn't apply to them?
i'm new here, but noticing a trend with you.
Fattyone
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For what it’s worth I didn’t always have anxiety and depression. I went through some prettt bad things and just didn’t come out the other side ok. I don’t even remember what it feels like to be “normal”. I’ve spent a few years in therapy and it helps, but not enough to keep going so I haven’t been in a while.
the mind is a weird thing. There are people out there who have gone through unspeakable acts and have turned into the most beautiful humans, and there’s people out there who’s parents didn’t hug them enough and they turned into serial killers.
I believe everyone has that “line” in their brain and once it’s crossed, there’s just no going back. Every persons “line” is in a different spot, some are easy to cross and some are so far the other direction it’ll probably never get crossed.
the mind is a weird thing. There are people out there who have gone through unspeakable acts and have turned into the most beautiful humans, and there’s people out there who’s parents didn’t hug them enough and they turned into serial killers.
I believe everyone has that “line” in their brain and once it’s crossed, there’s just no going back. Every persons “line” is in a different spot, some are easy to cross and some are so far the other direction it’ll probably never get crossed.
phenominal34
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I too have gone thru extremely difficult situations, I can see where you’re coming from but I just feel life is what you make of it. Whether or not you were hugged enough, not loved, abused etc … YOUR life begins around 18-22 yrs old. Make your life yours and make the best of it !! Enjoy it, but to each their own I guess. I’ve tried Tren / NPP etc never once had any “ mental affects” or ever “roid rage” etc from anything. For the most part if you believe that you want to be ok then you will be, if you put it into your head that you’re going to get mental sides you’ll prob make it up in your head you have mental sides.
Fattyone
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The people who don’t suffer usually can’t comprehend what it truly feels like. Your words are wise and true, but it’s just not that simple. It’s extremely complex and such an interesting thing.
I’m glad you don’t suffer from it though!
I will say this though. At some point in the last couple years due to tiktok and social media it’s almost become trendy to have some sort of mental issue. Whether that be a form of autism, anxiety, depression, neurodivergent (idk even know if that’s real but it’s one I see all the time). I think a lot of people are claiming they have these things and don’t truly understand what it means to have them. Which sucks, because it takes away from the people who truly are suffering and belittles there struggle and gives opportunities for the people who really don’t have these afflictions to stand atop their soap box and give compelling speeches like yours.
Which is fine, but it minimizes the real issue and makes it seem like it’s a case of just needing to “pull yourself up by the bootstraps!”
Which I assure you, it’s not.
