transdermal advise

[miester]

Feel free to call me a retard
Im planning on making a transdermal with the only ingredients being test base and mct oil applyed on scrotum. bear with me. I want to do this because im ultra anal about what i put in my body and im trying to cut out all additives. two questions whats the absorbtion looking like on this? And does micronized vs normal test base make any difference if im using heat to dissolve?

 

[baxter0312]

The oil will just sit on the skin and will eventually most will get wiped off. The low concentration resulting from needing enough oil/solvent to dissolve won’t help either. Not much will absorb at all

 

[miester]

The oil will just sit on the skin and will eventually most will get wiped off. The low concentration resulting from needing enough oil/solvent to dissolve won’t help either. Not much will absorb at all

Thanks for the reply
Ive seen people make transdermals using just oil and ethanol. obviously not the best absorption either. but i wonder how much difference the alcohol makes

 

[baxter0312]

Thanks for the reply
Ive seen people make transdermals using just oil and ethanol. obviously not the best absorption either. but i wonder how much difference the alcohol makes

Never heard of that, and i don't even understand the thinking behind it.

The most basic transdermals are either 100% ethanol or 100% dmso

 

[miester]

Never heard of that, and i don't even understand the thinking behind it.

The most basic transdermals are either 100% ethanol or 100% dmso

Ok thanks any idea on absorption of 100% ethanol mixture ik dmso has crazy absorption but it seems pretty checky to me. o and does micronized matter at all

 

[miester]

@Goingstronger Hey man (I cant pm people let so im doing this)
Ive seen you talk about a transdermals with ethanol and mct and I was wondering if u could give me some insight (doasge,recipe,where u apply etc.)

 

[buck]

Without a ingredient that will push the T through the skin absorption will be about zero as i see it. I used to use DMSO and T as my 2 ingredients. But doubt i would want to put that on my nuts.
Ethanol is what Androgel ues and they shot for 15 absorption.

 

[baxter0312]

The skin will absorb whatevers on it that can be absorbed, the problem is if it doesn't dry quick, if it's just sitting as a coating on the skin, it will just rub off eventually unless you do nothing all day literally.

 

[baxter0312]

You could try soaking a gauze pad in the oil and then using one of those waterproof wound coverings over it. Would be interesting to see how things turn out that way.

 

[buck]

You could try soaking a gauze pad in the oil and then using one of those waterproof wound coverings over it. Would be interesting to see how things turn out that way.

That was one of the original forms of TRT. It was called Androderm. I used it daily as my first type of TRT. I found it a hassle trying to keep it from wrinkling and sticking. Especially when sweaty. I saved all my pads and my first cycle was those pads when i opened them and rubbed them on the skin, I would guess the vast majority of the test was still inside the pads as most transdermal systems shoot for about 10-20 absorption it seems. I also used the adrogel i was prescribed at that time and transdermal tren that i made. Have no idea of how much i was actually getting in me but i grew as well or better then any other cycle i ever did. And that is the only cycle that i got acne from.

 

[baxter0312]

That was one of the original forms of TRT. It was called Androderm. I used it daily as my first type of TRT. I found it a hassle trying to keep it from wrinkling and sticking. Especially when sweaty. I saved all my pads and my first cycle was those pads when i opened them and rubbed them on the skin, I would guess the vast majority of the test was still inside the pads as most transdermal systems shoot for about 10-20 absorption it seems. I also used the adrogel i was prescribed at that time and transdermal tren that i made. Have no idea of how much i was actually getting in me but i grew as well or better then any other cycle i ever did. And that is the only cycle that i got acne from.

Yeah the way patches are engineered they shoot for a certain steady dose over a 24 hour period. For some reason in order to do that a lot gets wasted

 

[miester]

@baxter0312 What about a suppository method thats something i havent seen talked about much. Can i just stick raws up my ass?

 

[baxter0312]

@baxter0312 What about a suppository method thats something i havent seen talked about much. Can i just stick raws up my ass?

Progesterone Compounded Vaginal Inserts, USP

www.uspharmacist.com

Hormonal vaginal inserts, same thing i guess

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/suppository-base

 

[baxter0312]

I shall start sourcing and i'll call them cocoa butter butt bombs

I also just noticed the ULTRA ANAL in your first post, did you set me up this whole time?

 

[miester]

I shall start sourcing and i'll call them cocoa butter butt bombs

I also just noticed the ULTRA ANAL in your first post, did you set me up this whole time?

lol, i guess with suppositorys your dealing with first pass absorption though

 

[baxter0312]

It's basically just the oil and powder transdermal but it neatly solves both the problem of absorption and the rubbing off

 

[AlexDavis43]

Yeah the way patches are engineered they shoot for a certain steady dose over a 24 hour period. For some reason in order to do that a lot gets wasted

That is literally impossible rn without real time monitoring. Super-expensive.

 

[baxter0312]

That is literally impossible rn without real time monitoring. Super-expensive.

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2007/021336s002lbl.pdf

 

[cyclist5000]

Without a ingredient that will push the T through the skin absorption will be about zero as i see it. I used to use DMSO and T as my 2 ingredients. But doubt i would want to put that on my nuts.
Ethanol is what Androgel ues and they shot for 15 absorption.

Does DMSO burn?

 

[buck]

Does DMSO burn?

some people think so it doesn't bother me. After i rub it in i sometimes apply aloe vera witch i used some places for treating burns and can help absorption.