Anyone notice tren change their face negatively?

Part of why Arnold looks so healthy is because back then, the drug use was not so rampant. Did they even have Tren then? He was probably just using T and deca or dbol. Also bodybuilders didn't have to be so insanely low in BF. I wouldn't discount how profound the cumulative effect is of all the strain we put on our bodies.

Regardless of the particular substances used, modern bodybuilding is going to age you prematurely.

If you aren't competing and can stick to a more modest drug use and higher BF percentage, you can probably retain some better aesthetics for longer.
Yeah he’s not extremely lean so didn’t get the loose face skin that can happen getting shredded?

He looks like he’s added in some anavar or primo or winstrol at the end of the pre contest prep his arms in particular the skin was very thin and very dense biceps when flexed. He did a ton of sun tanning as well’

I think maybe the volume they did as well there going to be pretty fit good cardio just from that
 
As far as Arnold is concerned … genetic response to gear and overall physiology varies greatly. There’s plenty of people blasting gear that look very boy-ish. Just look at all the new age sarm goblins on tik tok running grams of gear that look like they’re 16
 
What's with all this face thing going on??

Be happy with what genetics you have and be your own competition, better yourself and don't try to abuse shit just because you believe it makes you or breaks you.

News flash, tren is not magic. Diet is, if you want to achieve leaner face get lower body fat overall and don't abuse steroids too much.
 
I haven't noticed, but I also have a daily skin care routine with a nice body and face cream with hyaluronic acid. It really does help. I'm also on GH which has helped my skin look younger. I can't tell, but my wife notices and tells me.
What face cream do you use? This question sounds kinda gay lol
 
What face cream do you use? This question sounds kinda gay lol

Haha. No homo. Bath and body works face cream with hyaluronic acid. It’s think it the only one for dudes they make. Shit really works though and I’m just now finish up my first canister I bought back in August or so. It’s like $14. Hard to beat
 
Theres nothing gay about wanting to preserve one's face!

I’m not going to lie, I thought it was pretty freakin homo,, but I’m in the sun all the time without protection, and my wife kept warning me about it. I didn’t realize white people got ashy, but my mixed-race mutt of a wife (i say this with all the love in the work because she’s stunning) told me how ashy I was seeing more sun spots. She talked me into giving a skin care routine a try for a month, and that was 7 months ago or so ago and I’ve been sticking to it daily ever since. All I use it that face cream and a body cream with Hyaluronic acid And I can tell a big difference. Skin looks less aged, it’s smoother, and i just don’t look like I’m aging as quickly. I just don’t work it into my hands because it taken many years of hard manual labor and weight lifting to build these calluses and I’m proud of them. It’s literally 5 minutes of my time after getting out of the shower and completely worth it.
 
I dont think any anabolics change your face

tren just sucks me dry and I look flat until it's out of my system

brb eating 600 grams of carbs and still looking flat lol
 
As far as Arnold is concerned … genetic response to gear and overall physiology varies greatly. There’s plenty of people blasting gear that look very boy-ish. Just look at all the new age sarm goblins on tik tok running grams of gear that look like they’re 16
Very true about Arnold. Not seen the TikTok peeps
 
I’m not going to lie, I thought it was pretty freakin homo,, but I’m in the sun all the time without protection, and my wife kept warning me about it. I didn’t realize white people got ashy, but my mixed-race mutt of a wife (i say this with all the love in the work because she’s stunning) told me how ashy I was seeing more sun spots. She talked me into giving a skin care routine a try for a month, and that was 7 months ago or so ago and I’ve been sticking to it daily ever since. All I use it that face cream and a body cream with Hyaluronic acid And I can tell a big difference. Skin looks less aged, it’s smoother, and i just don’t look like I’m aging as quickly. I just don’t work it into my hands because it taken many years of hard manual labor and weight lifting to build these calluses and I’m proud of them. It’s literally 5 minutes of my time after getting out of the shower and completely worth it.
I’ve been using tretinoin and azelaic acid nightly from Skin ans Me for 4 months and it’s made a very big improvement to my facial skin. The strengths were slowly built up, so at the min I’m on 0.021% tretinoin and in 3 months it maxes at 0.025% I believe.

Matte sunblock on the face is a must even in winter, and on the back of the neck to. It took ages to get rid of my farmers neck tan line. N I see older friends with fucked up wrinkles all over the back of neck
 

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