Bigbicep
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Hey guys. What are you thoughts on primo vs mast? Is mast just a cheap version of primo that’s only really good when cutting. Heard some great things about primo for bulking and cutting. Does Mast shine over primo in anyway?
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Primobolan vs Masteron Bulking and Cutting
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Primo gives me fatigue and erectile dysfunction, i feel like shit on it. Tried all kind of ratios. Makes me look somewhat fuller, but is a joke compared to NPP. Not worth the money at all. Very overhyped.
I tried to like Mast but the only thing it gives me is hair loss. No strength gains, looking flat. Feels less shit than primo though.
I tried to like Mast but the only thing it gives me is hair loss. No strength gains, looking flat. Feels less shit than primo though.
Bigbicep
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Strange, I actually haven’t heard of fatigue from primo yet. Erectile dysfunction tho I have read here once.
primojuju
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Try both separately with a test base 2:1 and find out for yourself, everything's individual. Both/either/neither might cause hairloss, better growth, aggression, strength, wellbeing, bph, ed, trashed lipids, ect. Primo has a chance to lower your e2, mast just might cause low e2 sides but wont drop e2 on bloodwork.
Sapopeluo
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Primo… by far… works better in both cases (in my view)
Fattyone
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There have been some really great primo and mast for bulking threads created very recently…
buzzingonaas
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That fatigue and ED is likely due to whatever test to primo ratio you ran. I’ve had it before until I went high enough test to primo. E2 was never even out of range on bloodwork but I could feel it. I think the lowest e2 was 16 pg/mL, and the highest on primo was like maybe low 30s
PaintDrinker
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I’m a big Masteron guy. I’ll start this off with saying I have a bulletproof hairline so not worried sbout that. I use mast in a bulk or a cut, not the most anabolic compound but the gains are lean, dry and permanent. For me anyways.
Also keeps the nipples nice and tight when on a high test run. The cosmetic effect is just a nice added bonus, dense grainy and vascular.
Also keeps the nipples nice and tight when on a high test run. The cosmetic effect is just a nice added bonus, dense grainy and vascular.
were you remotely lean when u tried mast?
No, 15% BF. Not a fan of "you have to be lean to see it working" though. I just try everything and see how it works for me.
Maybe it's really more useful when lean, still the hair loss kills any possible benefits for me.
EXCELLENTMENTALHEALTH
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I think the whole point of mast is to look good on it, so it really only shines when you are lean. From what I understand, I'd liken it to an oral like var - cosmetic and temporary.
Haven't used mast because of my research on it, but I have a bunch of it. I've used primo plenty - very mild, no side effects, massively drops your E2 though (I need a 2:1 test ratio just to not go under 20, though I haven't noticed low e2 sides on it, bloodwork shows low e2 on it).
I really only use primo as an AI now in place of asin. But I prefer DHB - much stronger, and has a mild AI effect (more than enough for any of the cycles I do, not crazy strong as an AI like primo). I mean I gotta run 1g of primo to 500mg of primo, and for what? When I can run a much smaller cycle of tren or trest.
I mean I could go crazy and do like, 1gtest/500primo/trest, but I'd rather just do trt test/lots of DHB/tren or trest.
Haven't used mast because of my research on it, but I have a bunch of it. I've used primo plenty - very mild, no side effects, massively drops your E2 though (I need a 2:1 test ratio just to not go under 20, though I haven't noticed low e2 sides on it, bloodwork shows low e2 on it).
I really only use primo as an AI now in place of asin. But I prefer DHB - much stronger, and has a mild AI effect (more than enough for any of the cycles I do, not crazy strong as an AI like primo). I mean I gotta run 1g of primo to 500mg of primo, and for what? When I can run a much smaller cycle of tren or trest.
I mean I could go crazy and do like, 1gtest/500primo/trest, but I'd rather just do trt test/lots of DHB/tren or trest.
Well if youre that fat youre gunna be missing half the point of mast It makes you look fat because it dries you out. but you wont look dry because you have fat over your muscles anyway
but if its a no go for other reasons then its off the list regardless
RaddishPork
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In my experience (and a few others) Primo doesn’t feel like anything that’s why people enjoy it.
Mast gives me a nice androgenic “boost” for lack of better words. Makes me think about sex much more and I got a lot of body hair.
Mast gives me a nice androgenic “boost” for lack of better words. Makes me think about sex much more and I got a lot of body hair.
Mongo966
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Primo nukes my HDL.
I'd like to run masteron with test to see how it goes. I've only ran it once alongside tren so it's tough to say what it did. My bloodwork wasn't bad that time. That cycle was retarded for libido though. Less than 100mg each of test p, mast p, and tren ace. I was so horny it was retarded. I could have sat at home and jerked off all day every day of that cycle, just having a party.
I'm curious how much of that libido boost was from the masteron, as i've heard a lot of people say they get horned up on masteron.
That's my favourite part about steroids is the libido boost, fellas. I'll fuck anything anywhere anyhow.
I'd like to run masteron with test to see how it goes. I've only ran it once alongside tren so it's tough to say what it did. My bloodwork wasn't bad that time. That cycle was retarded for libido though. Less than 100mg each of test p, mast p, and tren ace. I was so horny it was retarded. I could have sat at home and jerked off all day every day of that cycle, just having a party.
I'm curious how much of that libido boost was from the masteron, as i've heard a lot of people say they get horned up on masteron.
That's my favourite part about steroids is the libido boost, fellas. I'll fuck anything anywhere anyhow.
Spaceman Spiff
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Most of the point is that it is an anabolic ancillary
Controls e2, heightens libido, helps reduce water weight, and provides anabolism.
It's not an anabolic powerhouse like test or deca but it most certainly helps.
100-200mg added to a cycle is a great addition for most people
Arimidex does most of that. Most of the point for me is that its an additional androgen that causes nearly 0 negative effects at moderate dosages
Spaceman Spiff
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Arimidex doesn't provide anabolism, nor does it heighten libido.
Masteron is closer to a SERM than an AI.
No, but there are other things that do those functions. You're acting like you ordered a cfa sandwich for the pickles, and the meats some sort of bonus
Spaceman Spiff
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I'm not. There are other unique effects it has.
I'm acting like I ordered a cfa sandwich for everything it offers as a whole and not just for the sake of eating
Your previous post stated half the point of mast was for cosmetic effects. Which is not true
Gpwol64
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Same exact .
If you're lucky enough to have a a bulletproof hairline high dose mast is very good for the lean polished look . I don't worry about being the biggest .. quality more my thing
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