Hey guys! So long story short I have an oil that came crashed. I reheated it on a candle warmer and refiltered and it was good. The next day it crashed again and so I added more BB and then I reheated it in the oven at 170f for an hour. I went to go see it today and its slightly crashing again. My question is, the constant reheating of the oil will it cause it to degrade? How much heating and reheating can oils really take before they start breaking down and just causes the hormone to become degraded?
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Temperature and degradation
- Thread starter Dxt25
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Did you contact the manufacturer?
The oils can probably take more heat then the chemicals in them. Yes degradation can occur with higher temps and longer times at those temps. How much would be a guess.
Are you taking other compounds with it?
I have often found when i mix an oil that is crashing with another product that is stable the end results is a stable mixture as the concentration per ml of the crashing chemical is lower.
The oils can probably take more heat then the chemicals in them. Yes degradation can occur with higher temps and longer times at those temps. How much would be a guess.
Are you taking other compounds with it?
I have often found when i mix an oil that is crashing with another product that is stable the end results is a stable mixture as the concentration per ml of the crashing chemical is lower.
PolarBear88
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what’s the steroid?
i’d rather heat it up myself every shot than add more chemicals but that’s just me
just use it as is you’re not going to degrade it by holding a candle to it
I put the bottle with no cap in the microwave for 30 seconds when mine crashes and it’s fine
i’d rather heat it up myself every shot than add more chemicals but that’s just me
just use it as is you’re not going to degrade it by holding a candle to it
I put the bottle with no cap in the microwave for 30 seconds when mine crashes and it’s fine
Yeah they replaced it but it keeps crashing.
Methylstenbolone. So at 170f heated up for an hour shouldn’t have ruined it?
Degraded some, yes. Ruined no. I would use it.
Dirthand
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I think each compound has its unique chemical structure at which heat would start to degrade it. You have melting point , flash points , boiling points and Yada Yada. I will not pretend I know much about these things cause I do not. My sister has a chemistry degree and kida explained some of this to me.. when I was visiting with her about terminal sterilization.. i can say i warm my oil each time before pin.. If I make something that keeps crashing I either uncrash it each time before use or just throw it out and try again. There has been times for instance I made a decent size batch of npp 200 and vialed it all up and it started to crash.. I uncrashed it 1 time and it has all stayed uncrashed for month or 2.. Anyway I know I didn't answer you question but I did write this cool post while driving...lastly I do beleive heat can degrade a hormone but low heat??? And how much degradation??? I mean a vial goes by pretty quick..
Peace
Drive safe, im drivving too so idk if ill make sense lol. When you brew what temp do you usually use and hoe long do you keep it there for?
I mean if you heat it at 70- 80c I don't see much degradation happening that's a normal temperature that I usually use to heat while brewing.
Past that I have no idea but probably no big deal many heat stuff at 100c.
I would just heat it every time I need to inject it to uncrash it but what a pain in the ass lol
Its definitely a PITA. I overthink alot, which you already know LOL. So I was thinking, in my opinion, it seems like heating the brew up at 150-170f for 30mins to an hour helps it keep more stable. Its seems to “melt” the compound more if that makes sense and keeps it from recrashing easily. The stenbolone that I have came crashed. And I reheated and got it back into fully oil. The next day it recrashed again. Then I think it was here I read to put it in the oven at 170f to fully melt it again and it did. Its been 2-3 days that its been better BUT it seems like its going to crash as it looks like there is “powder” swirls in the oil, if that makes sense.
What im trying to ask and figure out (lol) is when brewing from the start if it would be a good idea to keep the brew at 150-170f for 30 mins to an hour to help it fully dissolve into the oil OR if it would hurt it and break down the hormone from the start. Sorry if im all over the place.
narta
Member
Methylstenbolne will crash every time. Why inj? Warm it up, inject, rinse repeat no two ways about it.
knucklesamich
Member
Interesting, I've never heard of this compound. A quick google search and I see folks are calling it Ultradrol or M-Stem. Is this used in bulking or cutting?
FSA- 200 mg/cc NPP crashes every time like this too, a buddy of mine even made a brew with pure BB, not to use, just curious to see what would happen, no go--still crashed. So, when I brew up NPP, I do so knowing I'll have to heat it every time, never had a problem.
Can someone educate me on this M-Stem? It has piqued my interest : )
FSA- 200 mg/cc NPP crashes every time like this too, a buddy of mine even made a brew with pure BB, not to use, just curious to see what would happen, no go--still crashed. So, when I brew up NPP, I do so knowing I'll have to heat it every time, never had a problem.
Can someone educate me on this M-Stem? It has piqued my interest : )
