Same peptides in the same syringe?

I always wonder if I might be wasting anything. I often mix GH + retatrutide + BPC + whatever else may fit lol
 
Do not mix Glutathione and ghk cu. It started to turn white like milk as I was almost done injecting 4iu. I mix ghk with my other pepetides all the time but I won't mix that combo again. I was talking on the phone not paying full attention while mixing my pepetides and always do Glutathione separately and in my delt. After what happened I looked and realized what I did. Always pay attention to what your doing especially if your injecting multiple whatevers into your body.
 
Do not mix Glutathione and ghk cu. It started to turn white like milk as I was almost done injecting 4iu. I mix ghk with my other pepetides all the time but I won't mix that combo again. I was talking on the phone not paying full attention while mixing my pepetides and always do Glutathione separately and in my delt. After what happened I looked and realized what I did. Always pay attention to what your doing especially if your injecting multiple whatevers into your body.
I was not paying attention and forgot to switch my 22 g draw needle"random sterile Amazon brand needle" to my 25 g injection "Nipro needle" and felt like a woose when i felt the "definite difference" lmao and boy did i bleed from my delt ahahahaa yep pay attention
 
Sure you can do it. Just like you can inject some growth hormone extracted from the corpse of a person with Alzheimers.

After all, what are the chances of random protein strands sticking together forming aggregates? (high).

Anyway, you certainly won't "lose an ass cheek" right afterwards. As a matter of fact, it may be a decade or more before the signs of neurodegeneration become apparent.

Who knows, you might get a new disease named after you,

Here's what peptide/protein drug manufacturers have to concern themselves with in terms of aggregation:

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And this is with a single protein compound (there are no FDA authorized "mixed" peptides). Multi-peptide solutions increase the risks exponentially.

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Sure you can do it. Just like you can inject some growth hormone extracted from the corpse of a person with Alzheimers.

After all, what are the chances of random protein strands sticking together forming aggregates? (high).

Anyway, you certainly won't "lose an ass cheek" right afterwards. As a matter of fact, it may be a decade or more before the signs of neurodegeneration become apparent.

Who knows, you might get a new disease named after you,

Here's what peptide/protein drug manufacturers have to concern themselves with in terms of aggregation:

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And this is with a single protein compound (there are no FDA authorized "mixed" peptides). Multi-peptide solutions increase the risks exponentially.

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Sometimes you strike The Fear of God in me with these potential consequences and it's facts! You have pushed me to do more research about "aggregates" and "binding proteins" etc in the last six months and the amount of data is overwhelmingly NOT in our favor , i appreciate the data points that you post, ,
 
Sometimes you strike The Fear of God in me with these potential consequences and it's facts! You have pushed me to do more research about "aggregates" and "binding proteins" etc in the last six months and the amount of data is overwhelmingly NOT in our favor , i appreciate the data points that you post, ,

The three factors that make aggregates so dangerous imo:

1: The worst effects can be decades in the future.

2. I think there's a sense some "authority" would sound the alarm over this if it were a real risk. There is no "Agency of Underground Lab Produced Peptide and User Safety".

3. The incredible number of variables involved. The reason pharma produced peptides cost billions of dollars to produce, in part, is because issues like aggregation. have to be studied extremely thoroughly. There are supercomputer operated models that consider every possible aggregate that could form from a pharma formulation, under the precise conditions the drug will be manufactured, stored, delivered, and used. It predicts which of those millions of possibilities present a potential risk, like a self replicating amyloid that will tangle the white matter in your brain until you're a drooling mess. Then the pharm company has to change something to ensure that's no longer a possibility.

Pharma can't even change the material used in the plunger of an injector pen, or the storage temp by 2 degrees without rerunning the simulation and demonstrating to the FDA aggregate formation under these new conditions won't present a risk. 99.99% of UGL peptide users don't even know what the minimum reconstitution volume of their peptide should be.

A member and I have been discussing the fibril aggregates forming in his HGH cart:

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He filtered them out but they quickly reformed.

It turns out the concentration was far higher than any pharma formulation (a major factor in aggregate formation). After refiltering and increasing the dilution rate they haven't reformed so far.

Fibrils are especially dangerous because they're so similar to the brain "plaque" that's found in autopsies of people who've died from neurodegenerative diseases. Some fibrils have been shown to have the ability to reshape other proteins in the body to become fibrils.

And I'm not even mentioning all the immunogenicity issues and the potential of developing immunity to important drugs, or even training the immune system to attack your own hormones.

Minimize risk by:

-Use pharma BAC

-Reconstitute to the minimum dilution ratio used by pharma(or if not a pharma protein, use the dilution rate researchers studying the compound mention in their published papers). Greater dilution is fine, less is not,

-Don't mix peptides.

-Filter
 
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I once mixed HGH with some MOTS-C in the syringe. It turned into what I can only describe as jizz in the syringe. Never again. Nothing gets mixed.
 
The three factors that make aggregates so dangerous imo:

1: The worst effects can be decades in the future.

2. I think there's a sense some "authority" would sound the alarm over this if it were a real risk. There is no "Agency of Underground Lab Produced Peptide and User Safety".

3. The incredible number of variables involved. The reason pharma produced peptides cost billions of dollars to produce, in part, is because issues like aggregation. have to be studied extremely thoroughly. There are supercomputer operated models that consider every possible aggregate that could form from a pharma formulation, under the precise conditions the drug will be manufactured, stored, delivered, and used. It predicts which of those millions of possibilities present a potential risk, like a self replicating amyloid that will tangle the white matter in your brain until you're a drooling mess. Then the pharm company has to change something to ensure that's no longer a possibility.

Pharma can't even change the material used in the plunger of an injector pen, or the storage temp by 2 degrees without rerunning the simulation and demonstrating to the FDA aggregate formation under these new conditions won't present a risk. 99.99% of UGL peptide users don't even know what the minimum reconstitution volume of their peptide should be.

A member and I have been discussing the fibril aggregates forming in his HGH cart:

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He filtered them out but they quickly reformed.

It turns out the concentration was far higher than any pharma formulation (a major factor in aggregate formation). After refiltering and increasing the dilution rate they haven't reformed so far.

Fibrils are especially dangerous because they're so similar to the brain "plaque" that's found in autopsies of people who've died from neurodegenerative diseases. Some fibrils have been shown to have the ability to reshape other proteins in the body to become fibrils.

And I'm not even mentioning all the immunogenicity issues and the potential of developing immunity to important drugs, or even training the immune system to attack your own hormones.

Minimize risk by:

-Use pharma BAC

-Reconstitute to the minimum dilution ratio used by pharma(or if not a pharma protein, use the dilution rate researchers studying the compound mention in their published papers). Greater dilution is fine, less is not,

-Don't mix peptides.

-Filter
i have been reconstituting my hgh with a tad bit more "pharm bac water" and i use the vial in 3 days(not the fastest) , i have filters but it seems so damn pointless when i use up a vial so fast , i know thats not the safest attitude about filtering hgh/peptides, but thats where i'm at currently,,, And the more i study up the more freaked out i get ,,,, DamnitIMG_0193.webp
 
i have been reconstituting my hgh with a tad bit more "pharm bac water" and i use the vial in 3 days(not the fastest) , i have filters but it seems so damn pointless when i use up a vial so fast , i know thats not the safest attitude about filtering hgh/peptides, but thats where i'm at currently,,, And the more i study up the more freaked out i get ,,,, Damnit

We are witnessing the birth of a bubble boy.
 
i have been reconstituting my hgh with a tad bit more "pharm bac water" and i use the vial in 3 days(not the fastest) , i have filters but it seems so damn pointless when i use up a vial so fast , i know thats not the safest attitude about filtering hgh/peptides, but thats where i'm at currently,,, And the more i study up the more freaked out i get ,,,, DamnitView attachment 313357

Every step helps, so don't let the desire for perfection be the enemy of the good. It's not an all or nothing proposition.

For me, Tesamorelin's "bite", which went away after filtering was a real eye opener and motivation to keep going. When it started coming back once the filtered vial "aged" 3-4 days, I started per-dose filtering.

Keeping an entire "vial" worth of peptides in a syringe for days opened up other areas of concern.

I sought out silicon free syringes, since silicon is a major cause of aggregation.

I ensure there's a small bubble in the syringe as a "spacer" to prevent the solution from prolonged contact with the plunger rubber.

There's always more to be done. I've got zero headspace lüer lock syringes with zero dead space 31g needles on the way, and sterile luer lock couplers so I don't have to back fill insulin syringes any more, and can fill directly from the 3ml syringe to a 1ml with virtually no loss, while maintaining a sterile path.

It's all too easy to think of these compounds like AAS, but they're completely different, Steroids are like bricks and peptide are microchips in terms of the complexities involved.
 

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