NPP libido loss

[overdose]

Been doing this now for 25yrs. Last 12 yrs mostly TRT. I would like to do a bulk and I've only tried NPP once yrs ago...loved it! Amazing gains and nice quality.However, I experience loss or desire to have sex also no sensation or stimulation to touch. When I ran NPP I believe it was Test 700mg/wk n NPP @ 400/wk..maybe a few Dbol at beginning. I would like to hear from anyone who has the same prob.
My question is...Will adding Mast Prop help with the sex drive issue?

I know everyone reacts different. Tren does this for some, however I turn into a walking hardon on Tren.

 

[Juiced_lizard]

Been doing this now for 25yrs. Last 12 yrs mostly TRT. I would like to do a bulk and I've only tried NPP once yrs ago...loved it! Amazing gains and nice quality.However, I experience loss or desire to have sex also no sensation or stimulation to touch. When I ran NPP I believe it was Test 700mg/wk n NPP @ 400/wk..maybe a few Dbol at beginning. I would like to here from anyone who has the same prob.
My question is...Will adding Mast Prop help with the sex drive issue?

I know everyone reacts different. Tren does this for some, however I turn into a walking hardon on Tren.

Did you ever check e2 or prolactin while on NPP? I don’t have any problems with NPP but can with EQ.

 

[overdose]

No I've only used it once yrs ago and I think I cut it short because of this. I like EQ aswell but don't run it often because of anxiety and I think it messed with my libido aswell last time I used.

 

[Juiced_lizard]

No I've only used it once yrs ago and I think I cut it short because of this. I like EQ aswell but don't run it often because of anxiety and I think it messed with my libido aswell last time I used.

I’d say it’s hard to tell without doing blood work. Personally I don’t think mast prop or any steroid will magically cure your issues. They might help but that’s a maybe in my opinion.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Are you using daily Cialis? Might help.
I can't run npp with high test like this bc I'm a very high aromatizer. I instantly get gyno. I may try again but I'll make sure my e2 is much lower this time around. What I found works for me the last time I tried was 900-1.2g npp, 400mg mast, 50mg test e, 25-50mg dbol preworkout. no libido issues at all. I've heard people say they last longer on nandrolone but I found the was no change for me

I would run this cycle again one day but swap the mast for EQ and see what the difference is in feels/drive/cardio/libido

 

[Juiced_lizard]

Are you using daily Cialis? Might help.
I can't run npp with high test like this bc I'm a very high aromatizer. I instantly get gyno. I may try again but I'll make sure my e2 is much lower this time around. What I found works for me the last time I tried was 900-1.2g npp, 400mg mast, 50mg test e, 25-50mg dbol preworkout. no libido issues at all. I've heard people say they last longer on nandrolone but I found the was no change for me

I would run this cycle again one day but swap the mast for EQ and see what the difference is in feels/drive/cardio/libido

50mg test e??? Wow

 

[xrayphoton13]

50mg test e??? Wow

Yeah 25mg mon/Thurs. Just enough for normal function. I've left test and mast out in the past when I did this and was a little more lazy, relaxed, and demotivated so I think it helped. Next time I may bump it to 75-100mg.
It's an old school style cycle and most people run test highest now which is great too. You definitely feel more normal that way. but I like it bc it's the easiest way for me to run nandrolone and dbol and not worry about bloat or gyno or hairloss. The pumps are also insane. Makes my joints feel great and delts look ridiculous. You just gotta watch the blood pressure

 

[Galileus]

Dělám to už 25 let. Posledních 12 let většinou TRT. Chtěl bych to udělat hromadně a zkusil jsem JE jen jednou před lety...miloval jsem to! Úžasné zisky a pěkná kvalita. Zažívám však ztrátu nebo touhu mít sex a také žádný pocit nebo stimulaci k dotyku. Když jsem spustil NPP, věřím, že to byl Test 700 mg/týden n NPP @ 400/týden.. možná pár Dbol na začátku. Rád bych slyšel od někoho, kdo má stejný problém.
Moje otázka zní... Pomůže přidání Mast Prop s problémem sexuální touhy?

Vím, že každý reaguje jinak. Tren to pro některé dělá, ale já se na Tren proměním v chodícího hardona.

NPP is not Deca. 400mg NPP is too much! If you turn 700mg test, giv 200mg NPP

 

[overdose]

Appreciate the input! I think that's a little low for test but I don't seem to be bothered by aromatase much. I don't use Cialis as it does nothing for me at all. Viagra works but I've never used it for the purpose you are implying...this is new to me. At 50 I have a lot of ligament/joint issues and I know from the one blast I did few yrs back this really helped. Not to mention it produced an amazing build and strength. I've only been doing light maintenance training on TRT doses for quite a while now and would like to get back at it. Maybe I'll just suck it up and have limp dick for couple months lol.

 

[Georgetrenson]

Nandrolone issues (and most steroid issues) are generally the result of e2 imbalances;

nandrolone just happens to be more punishing than other compounds when its out of place, requiring more precision and skill from the user, which is why it shouldnt be used by beginners

Nandrolone is great if you can make it work, its just tricky. Run NPP first to see if u can make it work before using Deca

 

[Kenny Powers]

Nandrolone reduces your tolerance for estrogen. I’ve found that low doses of Test + high Nand works well for me. When I run high Test with NPP or Deca, I get the mental sides and dick issues. With low Test, zero sides and dick works great! It’s almost always estrogen related when other compounds have issues. So I use Test just to maintain my estrogen level, nothing more. Everything else comes from other compounds.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Nandrolone reduces your tolerance for estrogen. I’ve found that low doses of Test + high Nand works well for me. When I run high Test with NPP or Deca, I get the mental sides and dick issues. With low Test, zero sides and dick works great! It’s almost always estrogen related when other compounds have issues. So I use Test just to maintain my estrogen level, nothing more. Everything else comes from other compounds.

That's similar to what I said. Low test/high nandrolone definitely works. Only difference is I run my test even lower and rely on deca's e2 conversion plus dbol for e2. He didn't want to try it and said he'd prefer deca dick than running low test.

"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas"

 

[overdose]

No I will definitely trying lowering test. I've never had problems estro related other than having low estrogen causing low sex drive. Willing to give it a try. By no means do I think I know it all even with my yrs of experience. That's why I'm asking.

 

[overdose]

Yeah 25mg mon/Thurs. Just enough for normal function. I've left test and mast out in the past when I did this and was a little more lazy, relaxed, and demotivated so I think it helped. Next time I may bump it to 75-100mg.
It's an old school style cycle and most people run test highest now which is great too. You definitely feel more normal that way. but I like it bc it's the easiest way for me to run nandrolone and dbol and not worry about bloat or gyno or hairloss. The pumps are also insane. Makes my joints feel great and delts look ridiculous. You just gotta watch the blood pressure

So did you play around with the test to come up with these numbers? I just never would have thought of Running test that low...Very interesting.

 

[overdose]

Have you ever had problems with NPP and deca dick before running low test?
See...I don't have problems with bloat or gyno at all. Just lack of interest in sex.

 

[Georgetrenson]

Nandrolone reduces your tolerance for estrogen. I’ve found that low doses of Test + high Nand works well for me. When I run high Test with NPP or Deca, I get the mental sides and dick issues. With low Test, zero sides and dick works great! It’s almost always estrogen related when other compounds have issues. So I use Test just to maintain my estrogen level, nothing more. Everything else comes from other compounds.

Interestingly enough, Deca is kind of like the opposite of Masteron (in thought), in which Masteron doesnt effect e2 much, yet it raises your tolerance to it.

When I ran mast with npp i felt like they would cancel each other out. Curious to know how Nandrolone will stack w/ primo.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Have you ever had problems with NPP and deca dick before running low test?
See...I don't have problems with bloat or gyno at all. Just lack of interest in sex.

I never got to find out bc when running high test, the day after adding NPP my nipples would catch on fire so I'd have to pop an aromasin and raloxifene and drop the NPP. With low test and high nandrolone I may not be a horn dog and be thinking about sex all day but if my wife is near me I actually seem to get more turned on than usual. Hormones are weird man. I came up with the low dose just bc I didn't want to run no test as I had tried that before and I was just a little too relaxed and lazy so I thought a little test and masteron might help. Next time around I'll probably skip the masteron and maybe bump the test to 100mg. That or keep it at 50mg and add EQ at 300-600mg and see what that is like

 

[Kenny Powers]

That's similar to what I said. Low test/high nandrolone definitely works. Only difference is I run my test even lower and rely on deca's e2 conversion plus dbol for e2. He didn't want to try it and said he'd prefer deca dick than running low test.

"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas"

It definitely works, yet so many claim it doesn’t. I’m curious if they’ve even tried it. But in not a fan of dbol. Raises my estrogen way more than Test and the weight/mass fell off over a few weeks when I stopped it.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Interestingly enough, Deca is kind of like the opposite of Masteron (in thought), in which Masteron doesnt effect e2 much, yet it raises your tolerance to it.

When I ran mast with npp i felt like they would cancel each other out. Curious to know how Nandrolone will stack w/ primo.

Mast is a SERM, so it’s definitely beneficial, especially when running GH, to allow higher estrogen levels without negative sides. When I first started NPP while on moderate Test, it fucked with my head and dick. Mast fixed that. I don’t like having to run other stuff to fix problems when there are other solutions. Lowering the Test and raising the nandrolone worked very well for me. And I even ran Deca solo for two months without any sides and felt great! Had to run it high enough to keep estrogen levels in range, and 1.2g did the trick.

 

[Wunderpus]

Proviron freeing up more test may help you. However, I would prefer to get bloods to actually understand what's going on... If that's not of interest, try bumping the test up a bit to 800mgs per week w/ an AI, or, lower the NPP.

Oftentimes it's an imbalance of test, E2 and a 19-NOR