Adding test to NPP - risk and reward

[QuadFather]

definetly!

I mean they do bind to AR's and are androgenic so ... they sure wont help you recover. And as you saw in the study you posted, pharmacokinetics vary widely between people, so for some it may have less or more of an effect then for others. And I'm arguing that even for the slow metabolizers, the effect wont be detrimental.

However, what is falsely spread is the idea that you CAN'T pct from nandrolones for a long time after cessation of the cycle (up to a year and a half). I think this idea came from MPMD.



The idea that you CAN'T recover is just plain old false, as I already expressed my self in my abbreviated response to this very quote.

And btw, tren doesn't have such long lasting suppressing metabolites. That's only nandrolone.

Tren is a nandrolone

 

[runitback]

People blast and retain 50/60% of their gains when PCP ing, why wouldn’t I keep it? Long as its not superpysical tissue.

Goals = lean, dry tissue gain. Minimal water retention (diet in check).

What’s going to put on the most of that ^ in 14 weeks.

Drop Npp and add Tren if you only want to do 3 compounds at a time

 

[Jin23]

Ten is a nandrolone

Nandrolone (19-nortestosterone) is Nandrolone. Tren (17β-hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one) is a 19nor, but it's not Nandrolone.

 

[QuadFather]

Nandrolone (19-nortestosterone) is Nandrolone. Tren (17β-hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one) is a 19nor, but it's not Nandrolone.

19-nor

Both are testosterone with 19-carbon elimination

Trenbolone is an androgen and anabolic steroid of the nandrolone group

 

[BigTomJ]

I mean they do bind to AR's and are androgenic so ... they sure wont help you recover. And as you saw in the study you posted, pharmacokinetics vary widely between people, so for some it may have less or more of an effect then for others. And I'm arguing that even for the slow metabolizers, the effect wont be detrimental.

However, what is falsely spread is the idea that you CAN'T pct from nandrolones for a long time after cessation of the cycle (up to a year and a half). I think this idea came from MPMD.



The idea that you CAN'T recover is just plain old false, as I already expressed my self in my abbreviated response to this very quote.

And btw, tren doesn't have such long lasting suppressing metabolites. That's only nandrolone.

That makes perfect sense to me.

I'm definitely guilty of saying "can't" when I should say "shouldn't" when it comes to my opinion on the matter. I fully agree that the literal "can't" is nonsense.

I'll adjust the word choice in the future.
Always great discussion, thank you

 

[Jin23]

Trenbolone is an androgen and anabolic steroid of the nandrolone group

Correct.

And I'm acknowledging this (as it's fair for me to do so) only to give you some peace of mind, as your ego seems to so desperately need it. Otherwise it's somewhat counterproductive giving voice and agency to noise, which your presence in this thread has thus far mostly presented it self as. Although it seemed to give rise to a needed discussion ...

 

[QuadFather]

Correct.

And I'm acknowledging this (as it's fair for me to do so) only to give you some peace of mind, as your ego seems to so desperately need it. Otherwise it's somewhat counterproductive giving voice and agency to noise, which your presence in this thread has thus far mostly presented it self as. Although it seemed to give rise to a needed discussion ...

Thanks, lol as if I care about ego on a steroid forum to type out response that long