Time to start using insulin?

[Training till failure]

For years, I ran huge cycles with grams of gear, high doses of insulin—sometimes 20 to 40 IU a day—and loaded up on carbs, hitting 600-900g daily. Instead of building quality muscle, I just got fat, and my body was constantly in a state of shock, preventing real growth.

Fast forward to today, I’m on 250mg Test, 200mg Primo, 10 IU of GH every night before bed, a high-protein diet, and keeping carbs low. I’ve made more progress in muscle growth now than I did in the last 10-15 years. Just some food for thought.

What does 10ius of hgh do for you body?

I'm 21 and found 2 ius does absolutely nothing.

5ius I found gave me good sleep, recovery, better pumps and slightly better body composition and mental health and clarity.

Never ran primo, so not sure if it's worth trying that over mast or not.

 

[Training till failure]

Test, Primo, GH and a bit of Var with a high protein diet and good sleep is the good ol' reliable for me. Always works, dont need to up the doses either and keep things low but continue to grow

Might give test, primo and hgh a go as I've never ran primo and never ran hgh over 5ius.

Would 200mg of test, 100mg of primo and 10ius of hgh be a good cycle, plus mixed with GHRP-6 which I already love that helps me eat like a horse.

 

[Nidus]

Might give test, primo and hgh a go as I've never ran primo and never ran hgh over 5ius.

Would 200mg of test, 100mg of primo and 10ius of hgh be a good cycle, plus mixed with GHRP-6 which I already love that helps me eat like a horse.

I have the best results at 250mg test 200 primo and 4iu GH with 10mg anavar preworkout and before sleep.
I never ran more than 4iu of GHs.

 

[Training till failure]

I have the best results at 250mg test 200 primo and 4iu GH with 10mg anavar preworkout and before sleep.
I never ran more than 4iu of GHs.

I like anavar a lot, however no longer run orals just because I don't want to cause unnecessary damage to my liver as much as I love the pump, vascularity, strength, hardness it gives me, I just avoid orals completely.

They tend to give me bad acid reflux.

 

[Palifter]

OP is 21. He needs consistency in the gym and in the kitchen. Sprinkle in a little test only if you really want. Everything else is a waste of money at this point and I’d rather see those funds being spent on groceries.

 

[Nidus]

I like anavar a lot, however no longer run orals just because I don't want to cause unnecessary damage to my liver as much as I love the pump, vascularity, strength, hardness it gives me, I just avoid orals completely.

They tend to give me bad acid reflux.

Never had liver issues with Anavar, even up to 50mg. Always made sure to run 500-750mg of Tudca over the day and lots of fiber.

It does nuke my lipids so thats why i stay away from it for now

 

[Training till failure]

OP is 21. He needs consistency in the gym and in the kitchen. Sprinkle in a little test only if you really want. Everything else is a waste of money at this point and I’d rather see those funds being spent on groceries.

I only run test, then GHRP-6 to help me eat like a horse.

Atm anyways.

Rest of the money goes towards food now anyways.

I have order some l-carnitine to use pre workout just due to the fact I no longer want to take preworkout as it makes me crash badly and effects my appetite awfully.

 

[Ateam2023]

I'm not gonna like but I think part of the reason Palifter said, "yea, skip the insulin" was in part because you don't come across as serious. He asked for stats in both of his replies as it gives the community a more full picture of what they're working with, rather than shooting from the hip. Both times you ignored him. The second going so far as to say you "don't see the point in weighing yourself" for one reason or another.

I suggest if a clearly more experienced member here on Meso asks you to provide some more detailed information to better help in answering YOUR question then maybe you should provide that information rather than waste everyone's time.

I mean if you can't even manage simple interactions, that you initiated I might add, than the last thing you should be trying to manage is insulin use.

Ha- I really don't mean to be insulting but damn that was frustrating to read.

this guy reminds me of that "tool" @smartgear , starting multiple bs threads, not considerate of other member's questions, and basically the " know it all " attitude, ,

 

[Palifter]

I only run test, then GHRP-6 to help me eat like a horse.

Atm anyways.

Rest of the money goes towards food now anyways.

I have order some l-carnitine to use pre workout just due to the fact I no longer want to take preworkout as it makes me crash badly and effects my appetite awfully.

Just stick to test + food + training.

Do this for a few years.

And stop making threads.

 

[Training till failure]

Just stick to test + food + training.

Do this for a few years.

And stop making threads.

No worries

 

[Ateam2023]

No worries

yes Please stop with the new threads EVRYDaY, , I understand you have questions, but starting a new thread everyday isnt gonna answer most of these , they've likely already been answered at lenghth using the search function provided

 

[Training till failure]

yes Please stop with the new threads EVRYDaY, , I understand you have questions, but starting a new thread everyday isnt gonna answer most of these , they've likely already been answered at lenghth using the search function provided

Yeah that's fine.

My apologies.

Also thank you eveyone.

 

[-C19H28O2-]

I have the best results at 250mg test 200 primo and 4iu GH with 10mg anavar preworkout and before sleep.
I never ran more than 4iu of GHs.

250mg test and 200mg primo every day right ?

Don’t say it’s a weekly dosage ,then you’re small as fuck.

10mg Anavar isn’t even a women’s dosage…stop using steroids.

 

[Nidus]

250mg test and 200mg primo every day right ?

Don’t say it’s a weekly dosage ,then you’re small as fuck.

10mg Anavar isn’t even a women’s dosage…stop using steroids.

Lower your Tren intake

 

[Training till failure]

Lower your Tren intake

If you start to get any negative side effects then you should increase it!

 

[-C19H28O2-]

Lower your Tren intake

Up your dosages and build some mass

 

[Training till failure]

250mg test and 200mg primo every day right ?

Don’t say it’s a weekly dosage ,then you’re small as fuck.

10mg Anavar isn’t even a women’s dosage…stop using steroids.

To be fair more gear doesn't actually mean more mass just from my experience.

I remember when I was 19 I was abusing grams of gear and looked like I never stepped foot in a gym as my diet and training was absolutely shocking asf.

Now on 200mg of test and GHRP-6 I've made better quality progress on that than I did on grams of gear.

My point is that if you ain't bashing the food and training smart and hard then you won't grow regardless of how much you choose to abuse.

Now obviously if you abused a lot of gear and eat a lot and train hard then it wouldn't shock me if you would grow significantly more.

Try and milk as little as you can get away with.

If he's eating good, then he probably looks good to on those dosages.

I wish abusing more actually meant more progress for less effort, however this isn't how it works unfortunately.

 

[CraneKraken]

This thread gives me a headache.

 

[-C19H28O2-]

To be fair more gear doesn't actually mean more mass just from my experience.

I remember when I was 19 I was abusing grams of gear and looked like I never stepped foot in a gym as my diet and training was absolutely shocking asf.

Now on 200mg of test and GHRP-6 I've made better quality progress on that than I did on grams of gear.

My point is that if you ain't bashing the food and training smart and hard then you won't grow regardless of how much you choose to abuse.

Now obviously if you abused a lot of gear and eat a lot and train hard then it wouldn't shock me if you would grow significantly more.

Try and milk as little as you can get away with.

If he's eating good, then he probably looks good to on those dosages.

I wish abusing more actually meant more progress for less effort, however this isn't how it works unfortunately.

5yrs str8 3 grams of steroids maybe some GH and Insulin ,7 meals of clean food ,enough sleep and training every Body part once a week till failure makes you a fucking monster. This not possible with an amount of 400mg a week. I don’t say it’s healthy but if you abusing steroids than do it 100%. Idgaf about good looking ,why driving a fucking fiat when you can drive Ferrari.

 

[accidentaljedi173]

5yrs str8 3 grams of steroids maybe some GH and Insulin ,7 meals of clean food ,enough sleep and training every Body part once a week till failure makes you a fucking monster. This not possible with an amount of 400mg a week. I don’t say it’s healthy but if you abusing steroids than do it 100%. Idgaf about good looking ,why driving a fucking fiat when you can drive Ferrari.

Stop giving advice