Chilton Test-E GSO

[greenan250]

Hi, I've bought a few vials of Chiltons Test-E GSO in December. The batch number is CLTE11. I started using it roughly 6 weeks ago and since then I've had very bad flu like symptoms, The PIP is atrocious even 6 weeks later I still can't sit on the toilet right and it's effecting my sleep. I use 25g 1" pins and rotate between glutes, Doing injections twice per week at just under a 1ml per time. Never had a issue with Chilton before has anyone had isuses with this batch? I also gave a vial to a mate of mine he has had the exact same issues as me. At 6 weeks surely things should have subsided by now?

 

[iris]

Test-E

That's why.
Change ester

 

[greenan250]

That's why.
Change ester

I had been using chiltons test-e since last summer and had no issues though? Until the batch i got in December.

 

[iris]

I had been using chiltons test-e since last summer and had no issues though? Until the batch i got in December.

What's the concentration?
People here have been reporting issues with test e raws, for a long time.
The fact your mate got the same pip problems should tell you something.

 

[greenan250]

What's the concentration?
People here have been reporting issues with test e raws, for a long time.
The fact your mate got the same pip problems should tell you something.

Test-e 300.. Yep it's looking like the bin for the rest of it. Chilton has shut up shop for a few weeks as well.

 

[Ghoul]

It's a common problem. Even when a batch of oils starts off pip free, some process takes place causing it to develop over time.

Honestly without certainty of why this is happening, getting sick is enough of a warning sign to stop.

Switch to Test-C and throw that crap out.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Test-e 300.. Yep it's looking like the bin for the rest of it. Chilton has shut up shop for a few weeks as well.

If you're running any other oils, you can try diluting it with them.

People have reported diluting primo with other oils makes it more tolerable (PIP-wise).

 

[greenan250]

If you're running any other oils, you can try diluting it with them.

People have reported diluting primo with other oils makes it more tolerable (PIP-wise).

Not running anything else mate and ive only ever used test. The PIP just seems to be getting worse and flu like symptoms aren't going away either. I had 3-4 nights where i had really bad night sweats also. I also had local GP do bloods and they came back very high WBC. I'll be binning it and trying test-c out. It peaked my interest to see if anyone else had an issue with that batch number. Both glutes, To touch, Feel like there is fluid been held in them, I've never experienced it before, I've had pip for a short amount of time when I started gear first but nothing like this, and for this length, I thought my body would have adapted (the lack of common sesne here is truly remarkable isnt it?lol) I need to source something else within the next week, Local stuff is horrendous where I live. Unable to access Chiron and SG also so I may get digging!

 

[greenan250]

It's a common problem. Even when a batch of oils starts off pip free, some process takes place causing it to develop over time.

Honestly without certainty of why this is happening, getting sick is enough of a warning sign to stop.

Switch to Test-C and throw that crap out.

In the process of trying to source some Cyp and yes it's good as gone!

 

[AlexDavis43]

Not running anything else mate and ive only ever used test. The PIP just seems to be getting worse and flu like symptoms aren't going away either. I had 3-4 nights where i had really bad night sweats also. I also had local GP do bloods and they came back very high WBC. I'll be binning it and trying test-c out. It peaked my interest to see if anyone else had an issue with that batch number. Both glutes, To touch, Feel like there is fluid been held in them, I've never experienced it before, I've had pip for a short amount of time when I started gear first but nothing like this, and for this length, I thought my body would have adapted (the lack of common sesne here is truly remarkable isnt it?lol) I need to source something else within the next week, Local stuff is horrendous where I live. Unable to access Chiron and SG also so I may get digging!

Yeah, agree, fuck that. And I don't like binning gear.

Seems like a batch problem. Some people have mentioned that Test E PIP gets worse with older batches but I recently went through some 2-3 year old Test E and had no PIP (UGL but don't recall the source, was just trying to clear out some old stock).

 

[greenan250]

Yeah, agree, fuck that. And I don't like binning gear.

Seems like a batch problem. Some people have mentioned that Test E PIP gets worse with older batches but I recently went through some 2-3 year old Test E and had no PIP (UGL but don't recall the source, was just trying to clear out some old stock).

It's crazy because I had bought enanthate from chilton last summer and had no issues with it and I used it right up until it ran out in January sometime. Which is when I started using the batch I've stated here. Not to worry I'll get sorted! And moving forward give my head a wobble and use common sense in the future!

 

[Ghoul]

Yeah, agree, fuck that. And I don't like binning gear.

Seems like a batch problem. Some people have mentioned that Test E PIP gets worse with older batches but I recently went through some 2-3 year old Test E and had no PIP (UGL but don't recall the source, was just trying to clear out some old stock).

This worsening with age Test-E thing seems to be limited to oils made in the last 1-2 years. Presumably yours was made before whatever changed with E raws happened. Anecdotally some have used 5, even 10 year old test-e without noticing any problems.

Not the first flu-like illness I've heard like this from recent test-e though, which is much more concerning than pip.

 

[greenan250]

This worsening with age Test-E thing seems to be limited to oils made in the last 1-2 years. Presumably yours was made before whatever changed with E raws happened. Anecdotally some have used 5, even 10 year old test-e without noticing any problems.

Not the first flu-like illness I've heard like this from recent test-e though, which is much more concerning than pip.

It makes for interesting reading alright which i plan on looking into tomorrow! Me and me mate both had the exact symptoms, Flu/fever/night sweats for 3 or 4 nights/body overheating/loss of appetite/ hot and cold spells/ very strong odour from sweat to that I've never smelled before.

 

[Ghoul]

It makes for interesting reading alright which i plan on looking into tomorrow! Me and me mate both had the exact symptoms, Flu/fever/night sweats for 3 or 4 nights/body overheating/loss of appetite/ hot and cold spells/ very strong odour from sweat to that I've never smelled before.

And the first vial was fine right?

 

[greenan250]

And the first vial was fine right?

the vials I had purchased last summer where 100% they ran out in january. I purchased more in December which I started using in late January and the issues began

 

[TRT]

Hi, I've bought a few vials of Chiltons Test-E GSO in December. The batch number is CLTE11. I started using it roughly 6 weeks ago and since then I've had very bad flu like symptoms, The PIP is atrocious even 6 weeks later I still can't sit on the toilet right and it's effecting my sleep. I use 25g 1" pins and rotate between glutes, Doing injections twice per week at just under a 1ml per time. Never had an issue with Chilton before has anyone had isuses with this batch? I also gave a vial to a mate of mine he has had the exact same issues as me. At 6 weeks surely things should have subsided by now?

I battled these same issues in the past making my own stuff and was luckily able to narrow it down to 2 factors. GSO sat around too long and gone rancid or too much heat.

That's why.
Change ester

Easter has nothing to do with it.

It's a common problem. Even when a batch of oils starts off pip free, some process takes place causing it to develop over time.

Honestly without certainty of why this is happening, getting sick is enough of a warning sign to stop.

Switch to Test-C and throw that crap out.

Not the ester. I’ve brewed test e at 300mg plenty of time and the MOST you’d get is PIP from BB %.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I battled these same issues in the past making my own stuff and was luckily able to narrow it down to 2 factors. GSO sat around too long and gone rancid or too much heat.

Easter has nothing to do with it.

Not the ester. I’ve brewed test e at 300mg plenty of time and the MOST you’d get is PIP from BB %.

It's not the ester. It's the way the raws have been produced for 10+ years. Not 1-2 years like what some others says.

Not everyone gets the inflammation from test enanthate but I am one that does. Baseball sized lump on my delt for a week.

Gave it to someone else and he has 0 issues with test E and he has no inflammation.

Pip from BB? How does BB cause pip?

 

[greenan250]

I think as Ghoul said in his comment the flu like illness is much more concerning than the pip. Bad PIP is very annoying especially when its so bad you can't train legs! But to get physically sick from something as basic as test is a whole lot worse.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I think as Ghoul said in his comment the flu like illness is much more concerning than the pip. Bad PIP is very annoying especially when its so bad you can't train legs! But to get physically sick from something as basic as test is a whole lot worse.

The "flu like" symptoms of gear can be related to systemic inflammation.

 

[greenan250]

The "flu like" symptoms of gear can be related to systemic inflammation.

Could systematic inflammation show on a blood test as high WBC mate?