Can someone point me to a useful thread for someone that has never used gh before? I have many questions as far as reconstituting it,storing it,how long it lasts if stored correctly, etc. I've read enough about dosages and applications but I can't seem to easily find the correct mixing and storage protocol. I'm considering ordering a few kits of generic gh from a decent source on here but I don't want it going bad because I'm mixing or storing it wrong.
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AlwaysHungry
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Store it in the fridge if not reconstituted it can last “years”
If you reconstitute it it last about 7-10 days in the fridge
The vial itself it has negative pressure in it that means that if you poke it with your syringe full of water it gonna draw the water violently and damage the GH
The way to do it is , poke your vial with a needle , let the needle in
And then do a second poke and slowly pin your water into the vial , when all water is into the vial remove the needles and stir it gently until the water is clear.
If you reconstitute it it last about 7-10 days in the fridge
The vial itself it has negative pressure in it that means that if you poke it with your syringe full of water it gonna draw the water violently and damage the GH
The way to do it is , poke your vial with a needle , let the needle in
And then do a second poke and slowly pin your water into the vial , when all water is into the vial remove the needles and stir it gently until the water is clear.
Ghoul
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Reconstitute it with enough BAC the volume of your dose is around .5ml.
Reconstituted GENTLY. Avoid hitting the pick directly with water or creating foam/bubbles. Roll in your hands. don't shake the vial.
Keep refridgerated in a light protected container.
Try to use the smallest dose vials practical, so it spends as little time reconstituted as possible.
Filtering will improve quality of the HGH by removing bacteria. aggregates, and non-organic contaminants like glass, plastic etc.
Reconstituted GENTLY. Avoid hitting the pick directly with water or creating foam/bubbles. Roll in your hands. don't shake the vial.
Keep refridgerated in a light protected container.
Try to use the smallest dose vials practical, so it spends as little time reconstituted as possible.
Filtering will improve quality of the HGH by removing bacteria. aggregates, and non-organic contaminants like glass, plastic etc.
Sorry if I should've made a separate thread for this, but on the topic of vacuums and filtering: I got HGH from a vendor although the vials have no vacuum. Vendor says this is normal. I always filter it before pinning, is this fine or is the lack of vacuum huge cause for concern?
I wouldn't say the vacuum is a huge concern. Serostim has no vacuum at all and never has.
Ghoul
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That's because it's protected with a layer of non-oxidizing gas like argon or nitrogen. It's common knowledge that peptides with MET in the amino chain, like HGH and all the GLPs are highly susceptible to damage from oxygen.
All peptides start as liquid in a vial, a lyophilization stopper is installed, and moisture is removed under vacuum in the freeze drying machine. The stopper acts as a "one way valve", leaving behind vacuum, which also protects the peptide from oxidative damage. Pharma goes one step further, and replaces the vacuum with oxygen free gas, which protected the peptide more, and without vacuum trying to suck in, means even if the seal isn't perfect it's unlikely to be contaminated with air.
If there's no vacuum it was somehow lost, with the only practical explanation being the stopper didn't create a perfect seal, and unsterile air was sucked in.
Unfortunately we now have unscrupulous vendors (@TheLobster), bolstered by some ignorant members gaslighting the community into believing we should no longer be concerned about vacuum in peptides.
They pinned it and didn't end up in the hospital so it's fine.
If you have vials without vacuum, you've been sold a low quality, defective product and are entitled to a replacement or refund. Without vacuum, it will degrade much more quickly than with.
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Okay so I'm a little confused, I just got my HGH and each file is 12iu's and I plan on starting off with 4ius daily in split does one am/pm. So 10 ML bac sound correct for a 7 day period ? I'm sorry for asking such a baby question but I don't want to mess this up I waited forever to get it in.
Ghoul
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Reconstitute with 3ml, each dose will be 1/6 of the vial, .5ml.
1/6 of 12iu is 2iu.
Don't reconstitute a vial until you're ready to start using it.
Ask whatever you need to brother. No need to apologize.
Thank you Mr Goul and happy Easter the good news is as I get these baby questions out of the way at some point I'm going to turn the corner and not have to ask such basic stuff. Why 1/6 ?
Ghoul
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You said the vials are 12iu.
You want to use 4iu/day split into 2 doses which is 2iu per dose.
12iu/2iu=6 doses per vial.
I will say from what I've read, a single daily dose is likely a better idea but that's for you to decide.
Okay that makes sense, I was going to do a single dose of 4iu at bedtime,, but a lot of members here seem to be doing a split doses to maximize the effects of muscle building in the morning and sleep and rest and repair at night I thought I'd give that a shot. But then again one of the reasons why I'm using this in the first place is to get a better night's sleep I have borderline insomnia can't seek to break the 6-hour mark.
Smartfart33
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what would happen if i put the vacuum GH powder in the freezer
JuiceStick
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It will last longer than in the fridge. Lower temperature = less entropy, less degradation.
Ghoul
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The residual moisture would freeze somewhere between -4f and 14f. As it crystallizes it'll apply mechanical stress on some of the rHGH, damaging its structure.
If you have the temp set to 0f, the common swing of 5 degrees in a household freezer (-5f to 5f) could cause that residual moisture to freeze/thaw repeatedly, doing damage during each cycle.
No commercial lyophilized rHGH is stored frozen.
JuiceStick
Member
What residual moisture at deep vacuum? The purpose of vacuum drying is to remove moisture.
Vacuum insulates from temperature fluctuations. This is how thermos works.
Vacuum insulates from temperature fluctuations. This is how thermos works.
JuiceStick
Member
At 500nm vacuum, which is not even deep vacuum, water sublimation temperature is -35 to -40 C, which is well below household freezers
You ain't building any muscle with 4IU. And split dosage is done only for fat loss at low dosages, at high dosages it only brings more insulin resistance. I'll say again you ain't seeing any muscle building at 4IU neither at 6 and probably not even at 8.
dinfar1337
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well i defiently sleep better on 6iu. haven't seen many other benefits
Change of plan, 12ius on an empty stomach before workout, nothing at night for muscle building. I have the sleep worked out and getting a solid 8 plus hours per night, sleep score averaging 100. Thanks Sampei for the response.
Ateam2023
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how are you tracking your sleep?
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