New user intro/ looking for direction

Dr.DOUGY

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Howdy,I have just recently become aware of this forum and resource, judging by what I have seen a new member intro is the standard protocol. So I’ll start there. 30 year old male, 6’3” floating between 215-220. Body fat at 7%. My training schedule is lifting 3 days a week, 2 days a week fitness “cardio” and training bjj 4 days a week. My diet is very intentional with the foundation of it being the “vertical diet” (high quality meat, white rice, and low fod vegetables). Lastly, I had labs scheduled for this morning actually, and hoped to wait to post this until those were back, however upon arriving I found out my pcp never sent the lab order to the testing facility…so I will update once those are sorted.

With all of this said, here’s my dilemma. I’m training to be a competitive grappler. I want to achieve the highest athletic output possible. But I have been in a complete plateau for over a year. I can’t seem to drop the belly fat, I would consider myself “strong” for the rooms I’m in, but I’m not getting any stronger. And for the life of me, I can not thicken up. My frame is fairly tall, so I get that’s not the easiest thing to do, but damn there has to be something.

I did an 8 week cycle of ipamorelin/ cjc-1295 and saw results, but they were not enough to justify the requirements of injecting 2 hours after a meal. (Getting off the mats at 8:30 to rush home to eat by 8:45 to stay up till 10:45 to be back up at 4:00 to make the gym had my life whacked out). The second cycle had even less noticeable results.

Where can I look to go from here? I feel I have put in the hard work up front. I don’t want to compete as a body builder and have the most dialed physique. But I would like to see results, get bigger, stronger, and overall optimize my last few athleticly relevant years. Any suggestions (obvi labs would be helpful for those) would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for sitting through that, and apologies for any newbie blunders I’m sure I have made in my initial post, I will work to improve as I familiarize with the platform.
 
Belly fat and I’m at 7% body fat, can’t go together.

Losing fat is a calorie deficit. Gear or no gear.

No one will give you sources here you can do research and find good ones.

Your first cycle should be just test. Not a nerd dose of 250mg that’s trt+. Not worth shutting yourself down.

Learn about bloodwork how and when to do bloods, sides of test, how to detect and mitigate those sides, how to cruise or pct when to start pct.
 
Belly fat and I’m at 7% body fat, can’t go together.

Losing fat is a calorie deficit. Gear or no gear.

No one will give you sources here you can do research and find good ones.

Your first cycle should be just test. Not a nerd dose of 250mg that’s trt+. Not worth shutting yourself down.

Learn about bloodwork how and when to do bloods, sides of test, how to detect and mitigate those sides, how to cruise or pct when to start pct.
Appreciate the reply. Yeah I thought the same for the 7%. I’m looking for my inbody scan reports now. I suppose “belly fat” is rather subjective and different for everyone. I don’t have clear cut abs, I’ll just put it that way.

I did not expect any source information, and have been doing my own research. I apologize if I came off as looking for that kind of info.

I understand the cal deficit. And this is part of what I’m hoping to learn here. When I go to deficit, yeah I shed weight. My legs LOVE to drop their muscle mass, which isn’t a whole lot. If I go surplus, I don’t hold any of it. I was more so hoping to see what other compounds or cycles I could run (which you gave a straight up answer to, again thank you) and start researching some of those.

My physical genetics are that of lost and found bin. A couple decent ones and a lot of junk. I feel like I’m at the end of the line for what I can do with the cards I was dealt, and wanted to see what others who have felt that way would recommend.
 
if you have trouble getting shredded or holding onto weight it’s might be a problem of understanding the correct time frame and amount of calories to add or cut. Also you can’t be 7% with no abs, or even under 10%. If you hold fat on your stomach, it doesn’t matter, if you get to those places you will have abs… this is a common problem, but you are probably holding more fat than you care to admit (which will also negatively impact your ability to gain muscle)

Can you explain how you plan and execute either of the phases for weight gain and weight loss?

Anyways since it doesn’t matter if you have abs for competition, your cycle will probably be based around specific competition goals. If you’re not planning to compete any time soon, test, gh and some NPP could be good. NPP can help with joint wear at a small amount.
 
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