Test E pip and issues

[GeorgevanKost]

Hi all! Been homebrewing my own stuff for some time and never until now had any issues especially with Test E but now I am experiencing mild pip in injection site and a mild fever for a couple of hours after injection that eventually goes away but it is pretty annoying and I am thinking where did things go wrong. Raw powder is tested and sitting at 95% purity, may be not best quality and purest but already brewed from same batch at 200mg/ml without any problem, now that I have tried 250mg/ml the above said occured.

Everything is sterilized prior to brew, filter is 0.22 sterile, working in a clean environment.

Formula I have used for 100ml is

Raw powder - 26.2g (a cheeky bit more in order to compensate for the impurities)
BA - 1%
BB - 15%
Rest MCT Oil USP

Have used exact same formula for all my other brews - cyp, prop, boldenone, tren etc with zero issues, crashing, pip or whatsoever.

I am thinking if I should up the BB more - to 20% in order to be more soluble because of the rest 5% impurities or should I brew again just at 200mg/ml or should I add some EO.

All advices are appreciated and thanks in advance! (Sorry if my English is bad but it is not my native language)

 

[HeatherSwanson]

Sometimes the test e raws are fucked, some people develop issues with test e, like myself. Lots of threads about this already

 

[pipo]

This problem is around for almost 10 years now but still once in a while a topic with this subject pop up
What you can do? Throw in the bin test e raw and buy other ester

 

[lukiss96]

Sometimes the test e raws are fucked, some people develop issues with test e, like myself. Lots of threads about this already

Yes, I have ditched Test E completely for this reason. I will not risk again.

 

[GeorgevanKost]

Thanks for the replies and the info provided. As said above I have already pinned 30ml of the same exact batch with zero issues and pip but at 200mg/ml. The moment I have tried to do it at 250mg/ml I have this slight discomfort so I thought may be I will be able to fix it if I dillute it down to 200mg/ml and may be use even more bb and bring it up to 20%, heat it up to 90-100C and stirr it for 30 minutes in order to dissolve all the 5% impurities I may be wrong but I’ll give it a go tonight and will post an update tomorrow.

 

[DECLAN]

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Δ6-testosterone enanthate

Everyone knows about the pip issues for more than a decade now, be it brewers or just ugl consumers, hence, the switch to cyp or for trt bros the longer esters.

 

[pipo]

Thanks for the replies and the info provided. As said above I have already pinned 30ml of the same exact batch with zero issues and pip but at 200mg/ml. The moment I have tried to do it at 250mg/ml I have this slight discomfort so I thought may be I will be able to fix it if I dillute it down to 200mg/ml and may be use even more bb and bring it up to 20%, heat it up to 90-100C and stirr it for 30 minutes in order to dissolve all the 5% impurities I may be wrong but I’ll give it a go tonight and will post an update tomorrow.

For whatever reason after few months test e become painful.
At first it's all good and then it starts to do what it become notorious for.
Many years ago same thing happened to me. I made a batch and used that for a while and then I got the pip. I was maybe it's something wrong with this vial and made a new batch but not even that batch could be used. Then I start to look online and I saw that this problem was starting to appear on others as well. It was the beginning of this "test e painful era".

 

[Sampei]

Thanks for the replies and the info provided. As said above I have already pinned 30ml of the same exact batch with zero issues and pip but at 200mg/ml. The moment I have tried to do it at 250mg/ml I have this slight discomfort so I thought may be I will be able to fix it if I dillute it down to 200mg/ml and may be use even more bb and bring it up to 20%, heat it up to 90-100C and stirr it for 30 minutes in order to dissolve all the 5% impurities I may be wrong but I’ll give it a go tonight and will post an update tomorrow.

It doesn't matter what you previously did. Test E RAWS degrade with time and randomly so the same raw that was fine now it's not ok anymore. Throw it away.

 

[DECLAN]

It doesn't matter what you previously did. Test E RAWS degrade with time and randomly so the same raw that was fine now it's not ok anymore. Throw it away.

Or maybe make a mix with other esters/compounds maybe it will eliminate the pip? Worth a try, just to salvage it especially with the raw production issues of late.

 

[pipo]

Or maybe make a mix with other esters/compounds maybe it will eliminate the pip? Worth a try, just to salvage it especially with the raw production issues of late.

It won't. At that time I tried butch of things to make it usable

 

[Zeus45]

Test E and Test C Fuck me up. Good thing Trestolone Acetate exists!!

 

[DECLAN]

It won't. At that time I tried butch of things to make it usable

That sucks balls. I wonder why the sustanon I got is usable even after more than a year.

 

[pipo]

That sucks balls. I wonder why the sustanon I got is usable even after more than a year.

Sustanon doesn't have test e. Other ester are fine if they sit around in powder or finished oil but test e isn't.

 

[DECLAN]

Sustanon doesn't have test e. Other ester are fine if they sit around in powder or finished oil but test e isn't.

You’re right, I don’t know why I thought that lol.

 

[Ghoul]

You’re right, I don’t know why I thought that lol.

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[explodingHeart]

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> However, one man was strikingly muscular, yet denied any history of AAS or other performance-

"I swear I'm natty bro".

 

[DraxTheDestroyer]

They say that Test E and Test C are the same…they are NOT! I have yet to find a Test E that didn’t welt me up and inflame to ridiculous degrees, I always thought it was fake or replaced with Test Prop (which does the same thing to me). Turns out, I just can’t use Test E.

Test Cyp is great, still hurts a bit with pip, but barely noticeable. Idk whats up with that hormone or ester, but it ain’t right. Just my two cents, in that this PIP problem is more common than not I think.

 

[bob357sig]

They say that Test E and Test C are the same…they are NOT! I have yet to find a Test E that didn’t welt me up and inflame to ridiculous degrees, I always thought it was fake or replaced with Test Prop (which does the same thing to me). Turns out, I just can’t use Test E.

Test Cyp is great, still hurts a bit with pip, but barely noticeable. Idk whats up with that hormone or ester, but it ain’t right. Just my two cents, in that this PIP problem is more common than not I think.

I agree. Some of the worst PIP I have ever had was with genuine Bayer Testoviron Depot 250 ( test E) over 20 years ago. I learned the hard way that any Enanthate ester will give me PIP. Cyp, sustanon, propionate, Acetate , Decanotate, undecylenate and I have little to no issue with.

 

[DECLAN]

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Who are you again? I swear I recognize your name from somewhere? Must be all that tren lol.

 

[GeorgevanKost]

Thanks for all your info and advices! Yesterday I heated the solution at 80 degrees celsius, added more bb in order to reach 20%, diluted it to around 210mg/ml, let it stirr for 30 minutes and there is a significant improvement - no fever and flu like symptoms just some pain and tenderness in the injection site so I plan on mixing it 100mg/150mg test e/cyp in order to make it pipeless and not throw the raws. Anybody has any recipe for that mix in terms of BB should I up it to like 22% or is 15-20% sufficient enough in order not to crash ?