How to maximize IGF1 while on Pharma HGH?

[DudeBro]

using 5iu IM pre bed as of now and planning to use upwards of 10ius of pharma gh everyday
im also taking 35ius lantus and 8ius of log 2x a day

what gh dosing protocol would be optimal for maximum igf1?

im thinking of 5iu gh IM 30 minutes after injecting the 8 ius of log

what else can i take along side it?
maybe add in some tren for igf1 sensitivity? something to increase liver output?

 

[robert3]

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[DudeBro]

I know you

where from

 

[IndividualMan]

something to increase liver output?

definitely stay on top of your liver health, other than that i can just say props on your insulin choices, going harder on the long acting ones/ less hard on a Novorapid or Lyumjev is much less likely to cause a serious hypoglycemia.

maybe add in some tren for igf1 sensitivity?

the tren question is a question only you yourself may answer

 

[krvuxn]

If you want to maximise the IGF1 response then you need to take it and eat some carbs after. If you take it pre bed where you don’t have carbs until you wake up, then you will still get an IGF1 response but it’ll be less, there will be other growth factors in a greater amount that aren’t all that useful for bodybuilding.

 

[DudeBro]

If you want to maximise the IGF1 response then you need to take it and eat some carbs after. If you take it pre bed where you don’t have carbs until you wake up, then you will still get an IGF1 response but it’ll be less, there will be other growth factors in a greater amount that aren’t all that useful for bodybuilding.

other growth factors? like what

 

[krvuxn]

IGFBPs, FGFs, EGF, VEGF, NGF. No idea if that’s all of them, that’s just as far as my research took me the other day.

 

[BP_6]

Ask the liver king. Apparently upping the dose to insane amounts despite what it cost didn't help him to the way he wanted

 

[DudeBro]

IGFBPs, FGFs, EGF, VEGF, NGF. No idea if that’s all of them, that’s just as far as my research took me the other day.

do you have a source of information for how hgh administration protocols affect these growth factors?
im really interested

 

[Nidus]

IGFBPs, FGFs, EGF, VEGF, NGF. No idea if that’s all of them, that’s just as far as my research took me the other day.

Good collection, could also include MGF and TGF.

 

[krvuxn]

do you have a source of information for how hgh administration protocols affect these growth factors?
im really interested

I just went on Google and started asking questions. I didn’t save any links unfortunately. Basically I saw a video of a Brazilian coach talking about how his athletes don’t have large waists, and he claims it’s because they have carbs after taking GH and also use insulin with the correct timing. I got curious so I started googling.

 

[DudeBro]

Good collection, could also include MGF and TGF.

do you know what factors go into these growth factors release?

 

[Nidus]

do you know what factors go into these growth factors release?

By factors you mean what triggers them?

TGF for an example gets triggered through a injury or peptides like TB500.
Just like BPC, that peptides also triggers growth factors an GH.

Look at what triggers the growth factors and their pathways

 

[DudeBro]

By factors you mean what triggers them?

TGF for an example gets triggered through a injury or peptides like TB500.
Just like BPC, that peptides also triggers growth factors an GH.

Look at what triggers the growth factors and their pathways

thanks ill look into them

 

[Juicedhead]

Liv 52 seems to give me more igf-1 when on gh. Could try nac or milk thistle anything that will maximize liver health like others said. I for sure notice a difference

 

[DudeBro]

bump

 

[DudeBro]

Liv 52 seems to give me more igf-1 when on gh. Could try nac or milk thistle anything that will maximize liver health like others said. I for sure notice a difference

do you have blood work ? would you minding sending it ?