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AlexDavis43 said:
@JY Pharma what is the minimum order $$
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He answered this on telegram earlier (or yesterday). There is no hard and fast number. He is just going to turn down orders for a few vials or one kits worth of stuff. He initially said $600, then gave an example of an order he would not fill. To be honest, I can’t blame these guys, like Stan, for doing this. Pain in the ass to ship a pack 6000 miles for $50 profit lol
 
youwhat? said:
He answered this on telegram earlier (or yesterday). There is no hard and fast number. He is just going to turn down orders for a few vials or one kits worth of stuff. He initially said $600, then gave an example of an order he would not fill. To be honest, I can’t blame these guys, like Stan, for doing this. Pain in the ass to ship a pack 6000 miles for $50 profit lol
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If not for those shipments, we likely wouldn't know who they are and they wouldn't have the business to even set such a high moq. i don't blame them but damn. a few hundred grams of raws is no dice for someone looking to establish dealings with you? some of these vendors definitely seem to be doing quite well.
 
OldmemberNewcuenta said:
If not for those shipments, we likely wouldn't know who they are and they wouldn't have the business to even set such a high moq. i don't blame them but damn. a few hundred grams of raws is no dice for someone looking to establish dealings with you? some of these vendors definitely seem to be doing quite well.
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Different times my friend. Not worth it anymore to them
 
OldmemberNewcuenta said:
If not for those shipments, we likely wouldn't know who they are and they wouldn't have the business to even set such a high moq. i don't blame them but damn. a few hundred grams of raws is no dice for someone looking to establish dealings with you? some of these vendors definitely seem to be doing quite well.
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Maybe the opposite. Packing and shipping orders is definitely easier if it's huge amount in a few packs.
 
AlexDavis43 said:
Maybe the opposite. Packing and shipping orders is definitely easier if it's huge amount in a few packs.
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Also people forget that it isn’t only small time end users buying this shit. Local dealers and hell even bigger “sources” with websites outsource this shit from Chinese companies. They wouldn’t do it if it hurt their bottom line.
 
Trenbolonetax said:
Comments yes. Results? No. Was gonna give JY a minute to resolve before

Oh well

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Idgaf if that primo is "close" you paid for dosed 200mg per ml. Instead you got 174 mg per ml. With NO telling how pure that original raw was. So who's to say how much they had to OVERdose just to achieve the 174mg result in the first place.

Why are people here saying they be happy with this? Did he ever have testing for the raws? Even then that's still not good. Hope you are promptly refunded or fixed properly for your time and testing.
 
TheScholarOfBrew said:
Imagine having so low standards your ok with getting under dosed expensive gear all because current land scape is artificially bad.

Next thing ya know we will be OK with gear being not what it is.
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I disagree.

Its purely a financial equation for the most part (cost per mg)

Try listing primo 175 at the pro rata primo 200 price and you can bet there will be plenty of non retards on this forum buying it up big.

Would i buy oils from anyone? Personally, no.

I don't even use primo, insanely overrated compound.

But to say a quantitative HPLC coming back at 12% off during a time where most people can't purchase is the gateway to any sort of acceptance qualitative difference is compounds doesnt follow

(I know it was a bit of hyperbole but worth pointing out)
 
Bizzark1 said:
I disagree.

Its purely a financial equation for the most part (cost per mg)

Try listing primo 175 at the pro rata primo 200 price and you can bet there will be plenty of non retards on this forum buying it up big.

Would i buy oils from anyone? Personally, no.

I don't even use primo, insanely overrated compound.

But to say a quantitative HPLC coming back at 12% off during a time where most people can't purchase is the gateway to any sort of acceptance qualitative difference is compounds doesnt follow

(I know it was a bit of hyperbole but worth pointing out)
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No amount of money is worth sacrificing your health.
The longer I do this, the more I realize it's better to pay for good shit than it is to skimp out.


However, even if money was your priority, are you saying you're perfectly fine with injecting basically junk? I mean, do the math. You either get relatively pure primo. And you're paying for that.

However, if the source skims out and gives you impure, You're still paying primo prices for impurities.

Filers, binders, heavy metals. Solvents. Oxidation.. Oils..... Precursor....... Ester byproduct..

It's no wonder people get bad pip. All of this can be avoided when you start with something good. And you actually pay for what you're paying for.

Let's just say a source is utilizing giving you impurities just to have a lower price for the YOU the consumer....

At the end of the day, it's the standards. We have low standards so sources also have low standards.
 
TheScholarOfBrew said:
No amount of money is worth sacrificing your health.
The longer I do this, the more I realize it's better to pay for good shit than it is to skimp out.


However, even if money was your priority, are you saying you're perfectly fine with injecting basically junk? I mean, do the math. You either get relatively pure primo. And you're paying for that.

However, if the source skims out and gives you impure, You're still paying primo prices for impurities.

Filers, binders, heavy metals. Solvents. Oxidation.. Oils..... Precursor....... Ester byproduct..

It's no wonder people get bad pip. All of this can be avoided when you start with something good. And you actually pay for what you're paying for.

Let's just say a source is utilizing giving you impurities just to have a lower price for the YOU the consumer....

At the end of the day, it's the standards. We have low standards so sources also have low standards.
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Do we know the raws are impure?

Underdosing due to impure raws being brewed at 96+% purity vs
Underdosing 96%+ raws through deception are completely different conversations.

If raws are impure or it's being brewed with EO etc is completely different to your initial point of primo 175 being analogous to an acceptance of some qualitative difference.

If we know for a fact the raws are impure causing the primo to come back at 175mg/ml rather than 200, you are completely correct.

Whilst id never buy the shit, its not reasonable (at this stage) to presume a low quantitative oil analysis = impurities
 
Bizzark1 said:
Do we know the raws are impure?

Underdosing due to impure raws being brewed at 96+% purity vs
Underdosing 96%+ raws through deception are completely different conversations.

If raws are impure or it's being brewed with EO etc is completely different to your initial point of primo 175 being analogous to an acceptance of some qualitative difference.

If we know for a fact the raws are impure causing the primo to come back at 175mg/ml rather than 200, you are completely correct.

Whilst id never buy the shit, its not reasonable (at this stage) to presume a low quantitative oil analysis = impurities
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You would be surprised what you can get away with with only BB. For example, the current tren that I have. has been unestrified with tren base. Some might think that a good thing. however it causes extremely bad cough. and it makes your dosage unstable. However, I was able to overcompensate with it with a high enouh bb. A lot of these steroids are mixed with other steroids. Sometimes identical. Perhaps, for example, what I just mentioned.

And a lot of impurities are soluble along with the steroid unless you use a specific solvent to extract it. Making it impossible to know.


A lot of this is just education around this and low standards and I don't blame anyone for this. It's just not knowing better.


All I'm saying is, if we made sources be more accountable and we demand more consistency, things might improve.


I have an entire thread that I made with progress towards Raising. that kind of standard. I expect pushback and people not knowing any better, saying it's pointless.

But just a few decades ago, or even 10 years ago, people were saying 0.22 micron filters were pointless compared to 0.45.

It's just not being educated and not knowing how to do it. That's all it is, and I blame absolutely no one for not knowing better.

TheScholarOfBrew

Post in thread 'Save your unusable raws Guaranteed.'

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I started this project with the goal of purifying trenbolone acetate into large, high-purity crystals that can serve as a visual and chemical indicator of quality—ideally 98% purity or higher. The following is a chronological summary of the steps I’ve taken so far:

1. Initial Material
I began with trenbolone acetate in powder form. It appeared to have minimal binders or fillers, as it readily dissolved in acetone with no obvious residue.


2. Solvent Preparation
I used store-bought acetone as my solvent. Because water content interferes with crystallization, I...
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