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[sinistral]

I've read claims the 60/40 c8 to c10 mct oil is most ideal for our needs.

Any thoughts?

Like anything else, MCT has its place but most ideal is not appropriate. Some don't tolerate MCT so they might choose GSO. MCT is not particularly viscous so if you're looking to extend the half life of the drug Castor oil might be a better choice.

There are probably many other use cases where MCT is not suitable. Choose the best tool for the job.

 

[dasking]

Like anything else, MCT has its place but most ideal is not appropriate. Some don't tolerate MCT so they might choose GSO. MCT is not particularly viscous so if you're looking to extend the half life of the drug Castor oil might be a better choice.

There are probably many other use cases where MCT is not suitable. Choose the best tool for the job.

I get you bro, that wasn't my question tho, I 100% agree and understand what your saying.

Of the various types of MCT oil we have available for brewing, I have read a number of times that the 60/40 I mentioned is the better option.

various things about c12 just being filler more or less that c8 c10 are better for our health and potentially better as carrier oils.

Mig840 is just c8 and c10 chains if im not mistaken.

Really long short is I'm trying to figure out WTF the real difference in mig840 that hurts me and the mct oils i can use is.

 

[sinistral]

I get you bro, that wasn't my question tho, I 100% agree and understand what your saying.

Of the various types of MCT oil we have available for brewing, I have read a number of times that the 60/40 I mentioned is the better option.

various things about c12 just being filler more or less that c8 c10 are better for our health and potentially better as carrier oils.

Mig840 is just c8 and c10 chains if im not mistaken.

Really long short is I'm trying to figure out WTF the real difference in mig840 that hurts me and the mct oils i can use is.

Oh ok. Yeah, I misunderstood.
If you're having problems with Mig840 then either the C8/C10 MCT or C8 MCT would be a suitable replacement. It is believed that the C12 causes PIP. I think you can brew higher concentrations with Mig840 though.

Mig840 is not just C8 and C10. It is a propylene glycol diester with C8 and C10. Which means that the propylene glycol, C8 and C10 are bound together. What concerns me about it is that when it is broken down in the body that propylene glycol backbone is freed from its bonds with C8 and C10. This could be your issue.

 

[SBD1]

Remember when we all used to shoot/cook gear made with whatever oil made in less than sterile conditions and no one had any problems?

Now we have allergies to non grass fed free range air chilled mct. What happened?

 

[dasking]

Oh ok. Yeah, I misunderstood.
If you're having problems with Mig840 then either the C8/C10 MCT or C8 MCT would be a suitable replacement. It is believed that the C12 causes PIP. I think you can brew higher concentrations with Mig840 though.

Mig840 is not just C8 and C10. It is a propylene glycol diester with C8 and C10. Which means that the propylene glycol, C8 and C10 are bound together. What concerns me about it is that when it is broken down in the body that propylene glycol backbone is freed from its bonds with C8 and C10. This could be your issue.

Thank you bro, that just answered so so much.

 

[dasking]

Oh ok. Yeah, I misunderstood.
If you're having problems with Mig840 then either the C8/C10 MCT or C8 MCT would be a suitable replacement. It is believed that the C12 causes PIP. I think you can brew higher concentrations with Mig840 though.

Mig840 is not just C8 and C10. It is a propylene glycol diester with C8 and C10. Which means that the propylene glycol, C8 and C10 are bound together. What concerns me about it is that when it is broken down in the body that propylene glycol backbone is freed from its bonds with C8 and C10. This could be your issue.

Wow, I have scrolled past a link too many times with "Miglyol 840 is Propylene Glycol Dicaprylate/ Dicaprate". Thank you again tho bro be it ignorance in my research or just overlooking the obvious idk but you gave me the most complete answer I've gotten ever on the topics.

I greatly appreciate you taking the time to answer me twice now!

 

[OasAAS]

Test U 250 and Primo E 200

50ml end product
BB 15%
BA 1%
I prefer castor

Copied from my document so give grace on formatting
———————-

TU 250mg/ml

ME 200mg/ml



Primo E - 0.952 (44.4%) - 0.422688

Test U 150mg/ml - 0.970 (55.6%) - 0.53932



D = 0.962



50ml total



BB = 15% * 50ml = 7.5ml

BA = 1% * 50ml = 0.5ml



TU = 12.5g

ME = 10g



Material Displacement = 22.5g * 0.962 = 21.645ml



Displacement before oil = 21.645 + 7.5ml + 0.5ml = 22.587ml



Oil needed = 50ml - 29.645ml = 20.355ml



Formula

Castor Oi = 20.355ml

BB ‎ = 7.5 mL

BA‎ = 0.5 mL



TU ‎ = 12.5 g

ME‎ = 10 g

 

[OasAAS]

Test E/Mast E/Primo E
200mg of each

50ml total end product
BB 15%
BA 1%

—————
Primo E - 0.952 (33.3%) - 0.31733016



Mast E - 0.962 (33.3%) - 0.3205125



Test E - 0.943 (33.3%) - 0.31433019



Total Displacement Factor - 0.952



50ml total - 200mg / 200mg / 200mg



22.5g of material total * 0.952 =

21.42 Material Displacement



BB - 15% - 7.5ml

BA - 1% - 0.5ml



BB + BA + Material Displacement =

29.42



Oil needed = 50ml-36.56ml =

20.58 Oil Needed



7.5g Primo E

7.5g Test E

7.5g Mast E

7.5ml BB

0.5ml BA

20.58ml Oil

 

[Sampei]

Test U 250 and Primo E 200

50ml end product
BB 15%
BA 1%
I prefer castor

Copied from my document so give grace on formatting
———————-

TU 250mg/ml

ME 200mg/ml



Primo E - 0.952 (44.4%) - 0.422688

Test U 150mg/ml - 0.970 (55.6%) - 0.53932



D = 0.962



50ml total



BB = 15% * 50ml = 7.5ml

BA = 1% * 50ml = 0.5ml



TU = 12.5g

ME = 10g



Material Displacement = 22.5g * 0.962 = 21.645ml



Displacement before oil = 21.645 + 7.5ml + 0.5ml = 22.587ml



Oil needed = 50ml - 29.645ml = 20.355ml



Formula

Castor Oi = 20.355ml

BB ‎ = 7.5 mL

BA‎ = 0.5 mL



TU ‎ = 12.5 g

ME‎ = 10 g

Good luck injecting castor oil with 15% BB xD

 

[OasAAS]

Test Blend / Primo E / Mast P



—-

Testosterone P – 0.909 (16.5%) - 0.149985



Test D - 0.962 (8.25%) - 0.079365



Test E - 0.943 (8.25%) - 0.0777975



Primo E - 0.952 (33.3%) - 0.31733016



Mast P - 0.935 (33.3%) - 0.31166355



Total - 0.93614121







100ml



100 mg/ml Mast P - 5g

100mg/ml Primo E - 5g

25mg/ml Test E - 1.25g

25mg/ml Test D - 1.25g

50 mg/ml Test P - 2.5g



15g



——————-—-——————



50ml



1% BA

15% BB



0.5ml BA

7.5ml BB



8ml displacement



Material Displacement - 14.04 ml



Total - 22.04ml Between material and BA BB



Need 27.96ml EO / 15g total

• 7.5ml BB
• 0.5ml BA
• 27.96ml EO

• 1.25g Test D (3)
• 1.25g Test E (4)
• 2.5g Test P (2)
• 5g Primo E (1)
• 5g Mast P

 

[SBD1]

How are you getting those to hold with 15 bb?

 

[OasAAS]

Good luck injecting castor oil with 15% BB xD

Does it look like I have no experience? I wrote these myself friend & they all hold each batch…

Either way I warm my castor in a double boiler before injecting so even if it did crash- It’d be solution during administration

 

[OasAAS]

How are you getting those to hold with 15 bb?

There’s no secret, the doses aren’t stupid high. 250mg/ml you shouldn’t need much if any solvents.

Oil itself is a solvent, steroids are soluble in oil.

 

[Sampei]

Does it look like I have no experience? I wrote these myself friend & they all hold each batch…

Either way I warm my castor in a double boiler before injecting so even if it did crash- It’d be solution during administration

Can you read what I wrote? Because it doesn't seem so

 

[OasAAS]

Retrying this one with lidocaine & less l-carnintine

New B complex



20ml



12.5ml BAC



10g L-Carnintine

2g b1

40mg b2

2g b3

100mg b5

10mg b12

200mg biotin

0.5g methionine

1g Inositol

1g choline



L-Carnintine - 500mg/ml

B1 - 100mg/ml

B2 - 2mg/ml

B3 - 100mg/ml

B5 - 5mg/ml

B12 - 500mcg/ml

B7 (biotin) - 10mg/ml

MIC 25/50/50 mg/ml

 

[OasAAS]

Can you read what I wrote? Because it doesn't seem so

It said good luck? Like you wrote a novel Lmao

 

[SBD1]

There’s no secret, the doses aren’t stupid high. 250mg/ml you shouldn’t need much if any solvents.

Oil itself is a solvent, steroids are soluble in oil.

So the test u/primo is not a blend but 2 independent brews? Maybe I misunderstood

 

[OasAAS]

back to the basics.

Test D 350

250ml @ 350mg/ml

87500mg
87.5g

Test D - 0.962

87.5g * 0.962 = 84.715ml = Displacement factor [D]

BB 16% = 40ml
BA 1.6% = 4ml

Oil = 250 - 84.715 - 44 = 121.825ml

121.825+84.714*1.09‎ = 214.163+ 44=

TD	87.5g
Oil MCT	121.825ml
BB	40ml
BA	4ml

 

[OasAAS]

So the test u/primo is not a blend but 2 independent brews? Maybe I misunderstood

all these except the TestD350 are multiple compounds in one brew. A blend. My “TRT+” is the test and primo. But last batch did drop primo to 100 adding some mast in.

IME which is basically blends from day one- each compound can respectively hold at its compunally concurred appropriate dose in terms of crashing or not.

 

[OasAAS]

TC 200

0.962



250ml // 200mg/ml



50g * 0.962 = 48.1ml = D



250 - 37.5 - 3.75 - 48.1 ‎ = 160.65ml



BB 15% = 37.5ml

BA 1.5% = 3.75ml

50g Test C = 48.1ml

Oil = 160.65ml