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Why so low on the GH? It seems like most guys get almost nothing out of 2iu and really only start getting real results once they hit 4 and up. Maybe you're a hyper GH responder but if you're not than you're more than likely wasting the GH at only 2iu. Plus GH is such safe compound there's really no reason not to use as much as you can afford and tolerate.
You'll definitely grow. I'm curious how you plan to implement the insulin. Are you using a rapid acting insulin or a longer acting insulin. I just started using novorapid pre & post workout to go along with my 12iu of GH before bed -although I think I can get similar results at 8iu for now. Then using Test E 750mgs, EQ 600mgs, NPP 400 weekly. I use 100mgs of Anadrol pwo most gym days and if I don't use the Anadrol I mix it up with 20-30mgs of Superdrol just to keep things fresh. Been doing this for a couple weeks and eating like a king. I've been running gear off an on for 20yrs but never dipped into slin until this year and I absolutely love the results I get from it.
I’ll just be doing a basic beginner protocol with Novolin R pre workout with intra workout carbs. Very beginner friendly and a good intro to insulin. From what I’ve researched it’s only dangerous if you’re stupid and don’t have a good protocol in place. As someone who has created a very strict structured schedule and never misses meals I can’t possibly see how I could mess it up. I’m using Novolin R because it’s cheap, easy to get, and it gets the job done
This is solid advice and something I need to be aware of. With my daughter in college I'm at a point in my life where I can indulge a bit with my own hobbies and I've probably overindulged a bit this year. I'm healthy, 6'1", 225 with less than 10% BF and aside from hematocrit being above the reference range my blood work has been coming back fairly solid. With that said, I'm 46 and pushing gear usage to levels higher than ever. I am planning to tone it down by the end of summer. I imagine I'll just be running lower doses of Test and GH with some peptides and the occasional Anavar cycle come fall and winter.
the part about the redditors wasnt directed at you, calm your tits silly
Novolin R pre and post? R is just regular insulin not rapid
oh yeah, if you pin it subQ the onset is like 30min but if you pin it IM its more like log where its onset is 10-15min but it lasts a bit longer but considering you are so new to it, id just stick to postworkout first to see how you respond and tolerate it and then add a preworkout dose with your preworkout meal.
Is the general consensus to keep the fats extremely low while the slin is active true? I hear mixed opinions on “eat fat on slin you’ll get fat” or is it just basic shit that is your TDEE is accounted for you’ll be fine?
You hear different things from different people, but my consensus and common sense logic is that you want to keep fats away from insulin use, atleast very low.
Either way I’m keeping fats as low as I can. I want to utilize the slin to the fullest extent. Just a bit of fat from the turkey in my post workout meal is basically the only fat I’ll be consuming while the slin is active
im just asking, why do you need to introduce insulin and hgh now? you're 76kg. basically a fat woman. you need to learn to grow properly otherwise you're pulling all these drugs in to reach 90-100kg and be stuck there or go up to insane dosages
Funny enough most of my clients who are fat chicks weigh more than me haha. It’s a faster and more optimized way to reach my goal. There truly is little if any harm to running HGH + Slin even at my current size as long as I keep my fasted BG and insulin sensitivity in check which isn’t hard. I can afford HGH. Not running HGH is simply leaving some gains on the table as well as many other benefits. Who doesn’t want better skin, better sleep, better nail/ hair growth etc. I have at least 20 hours of research on insulin currently. It is far less dangerous than many believe. I would rather introduce insulin and HGH now and use both of them safely than have to utilize only AAS and higher doses of AAS for that matter down the road. Instead of just getting growth from AAS only, I am now getting growth from AAS, HGH, and Insulin. Also HGH and insulin isn’t like AAS where you have to run higher and higher. 10iu of slin is 10iu of slin regardless of your size. 500mg test to a 150lbs kid is godly but to a 250lbs monster it’s probably a cruise. I’m still pushing my AAS quite high this blast, but I’d have to push it a hell of a lot higher to see the same results as my AAS + HGH + slin
honestly you do you, you are right. i just tell my gymbros what i am on. i didnt even touch hgh until i was 90kg because i felt ashamed being too small, and probably didnt need it at all you have plenty of room to grow adding a little edge wont do too much at this point in time.
I feel ashamed about my doses as well my friend lol, then I also have to think about my goals and what I’m willing to do to be an open pro. It helps going on Reddit and looking at physique pics in the steroids subreddit where majority of people look like shit. Idk how it’s possible that after only 2 cycles at 170lbs 5’8 I look significantly better than them. It also helps looking through old Reddit threads where dudes would post there cycles for their 3rd or 4th cycle and it would be grams of shit. They’re hard to find but occasionally I’ll come across a thread of an open pro stating what he did to get to his size and holy moly does it make me feel better about what I’m doing. 3-5 grams + 15-20iu HGH daily is normal for those guys to reach that size. I’m gong to be running 2.7g 10iu so a good start point lol. Nassar El Sonbaty openly states that he took 1.5g AAS his first cycle, 2g the next, then 3g, 4g… he even said he tried 10g. He’s also stated he used 15ius HGH throughout his pro career. Really puts a light on how much these guys run. Not Phil heath with his 300 deca 500 test winning shows lol
exactly my point and they 2 of the biggest freaks in the ifbb
and im a very big believer of this, you probably dont need it. but you sure as hell is growing better on 2g of test than 500mg no matter your weight.
I know I wasn’t disagreeing with you in the slightest I completely agree. I hate how focused on staying lean everyone is now. I’m a firm believer in gaining a fair chunk of fat in order to put on some serious size. Asfer Choudry (coach) preaches that if you want to add inches onto body parts, you better fucking eat like your life depends on it
First of all I appreciate you not just shutting on me and calling me a retard for running these doses. I know I’m young, and have only been on gear a year so I don’t know everything. However, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that MORE DRUGS = MORE GROWTH. Of course only if the diet and training can keep up with it. I’m trying to stop listening to the dudes telling me to take it easy and just keep growing on 500 test (which is basically everyone) “That’s all you need at your size”. Imagine if Nick Walker or Derek Lunsford listened to them early in their career. At the end of the day I’m just a sikkunt doing sikkunt things
