Tapering off vs coming off completely.

[Bigbicep]

Hey guys. Was wondering if anyone had any experience in tapering off large doses of ass to help recovery instead of just dropping it. Most modern medicines these days all require a peroid of tapering off when it’s time to stop. Was wondering if it’s best off to do this with AAS aswell. Has anyone ever thought about this? Would there be a benefit with someone who is not on TRT and has to PCT? Or even with compounds such as nandrolone would reducing DHN slowly enhance the recovery process TRT or not?

 

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Or even with compounds such as nandrolone would reducing DHN slowly enhance the recovery process TRT or not?

You will remain suppressed until well after you stop completely.

It won't "enhance recovery" it will make it take far longer.

Either come off and do your PCT or go on TRT.

 

[Trainedbytylerlofthouse19]

Hey guys. Was wondering if anyone had any experience in tapering off large doses of ass to help recovery instead of just dropping it. Most modern medicines these days all require a peroid of tapering off when it’s time to stop. Was wondering if it’s best off to do this with AAS aswell. Has anyone ever thought about this? Would there be a benefit with someone who is not on TRT and has to PCT? Or even with compounds such as nandrolone would reducing DHN slowly enhance the recovery process TRT or not?

What have you been using and how long?

 

[craigdt]

Im old and my natural test levels are low, and once I started TRT, I realized I would do it till the day I die, if I can.

So I settled on:
Blast
TRT
blast
TRT

etc

 

[Slowww]

Why would you want to take a pin of a small amount of new test as your body is almost done clearing out the previously injected test to then drag out the process repeatedly?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Why would you want to take a pin of a small amount of new test as your body is almost done clearing out the previously injected test to then drag out the process repeatedly?

agreed.

I would rather have a fast drop off, sooner reboot.

Test C-> test prop -> reboot

there is less suffering overall.


Getting off Test is for quitters(just kidding, I know there are times where one may have to)

 

[Bigbicep]

What have you been using and how long?

Nothing right now. Was just a thought. Was thinking it may be useful

 

[Biggerp73]

Before reading my little tangent below, just know that the most important thing you can do for PCT/recovery is start using HMG and/or HCG from day one of your cycle all the way through the end of it when the androgens have completely cleared your system.

Getting the HPTA to start signaling the testes to produce sperm/test is pretty automatic, the moment androgens dip below natural, regardless of how long you've been shutdown. The rate limiting factor is how "dead" your testes are. If you have let them be shut down for months, or worse years on end, then it can take a while, and a whole lot of blasting of HCG/HMG, for them to finally turn back on.

Best to just keep the nuts working smoothly from day one with the HCG/HMG and never let them turn off to begin with.

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It doesn't really work quite like that but lets say you were running a blast of long esters and you wanted to get as much out of the cycle as you could before coming off. Well if you just let the long esters naturally, slowly leave the body, you would have around a month or so of time where your body is low, lower, lower, lower on androgens. If you took orals or a suspension during that time you could extend the blast up through the time it takes for the long esters to clear your system, and within 1-2 days of dropping the orals/suspension you would be completely clean of androgens and your anti estrogens would be effective at boosting HPTA

 

[Bigbicep]

Before reading my little tangent below, just know that the most important thing you can do for PCT/recovery is start using HMG and/or HCG from day one of your cycle all the way through the end of it when the androgens have completely cleared your system.

Getting the HPTA to start signaling the testes to produce sperm/test is pretty automatic, the moment androgens dip below natural, regardless of how long you've been shutdown. The rate limiting factor is how "dead" your testes are. If you have let them be shut down for months, or worse years on end, then it can take a while, and a whole lot of blasting of HCG/HMG, for them to finally turn back on.

Best to just keep the nuts working smoothly from day one with the HCG/HMG and never let them turn off to begin with.

__________________
It doesn't really work quite like that but lets say you were running a blast of long esters and you wanted to get as much out of the cycle as you could before coming off. Well if you just let the long esters naturally, slowly leave the body, you would have around a month or so of time where your body is low, lower, lower, lower on androgens. If you took orals or a suspension during that time you could extend the blast up through the time it takes for the long esters to clear your system, and within 1-2 days of dropping the orals/suspension you would be completely clean of androgens and your anti estrogens would be effective at boosting HPTA

This could work. This is sorta what I was tryna get at by thinking of tapering off. Thanks for the advice.

 

[craigdt]

Before reading my little tangent below, just know that the most important thing you can do for PCT/recovery is start using HMG and/or HCG from day one of your cycle all the way through the end of it when the androgens have completely cleared your system.

Getting the HPTA to start signaling the testes to produce sperm/test is pretty automatic, the moment androgens dip below natural, regardless of how long you've been shutdown. The rate limiting factor is how "dead" your testes are. If you have let them be shut down for months, or worse years on end, then it can take a while, and a whole lot of blasting of HCG/HMG, for them to finally turn back on.

Best to just keep the nuts working smoothly from day one with the HCG/HMG and never let them turn off to begin with.

__________________
It doesn't really work quite like that but lets say you were running a blast of long esters and you wanted to get as much out of the cycle as you could before coming off. Well if you just let the long esters naturally, slowly leave the body, you would have around a month or so of time where your body is low, lower, lower, lower on androgens. If you took orals or a suspension during that time you could extend the blast up through the time it takes for the long esters to clear your system, and within 1-2 days of dropping the orals/suspension you would be completely clean of androgens and your anti estrogens would be effective at boosting HPTA

This is correct.

I didn't read all this, but Im perpetually on HCG, and don't understand why you wouldn't want to be.

 

[ripper908]

When I had to come off for fertility purposes my doc told me to taper off by 50 mg a week (I was cruising at 250 at the time) and it was seem less with no harsh mood changes

not sure of the reasoning as to why he recommended that but it worked

 

[lukiss96]

You don't taper down when you cycle off, you let it happen. Testosterone estered has a half life, so it tapers down once you stop injecting.

 

[Lift-to-failure]

After cycle i personally like coming off completely for about 2-3 weeks so my levels go down then go on TRT.

 

[just some dude]

not that it really helps but i was using qsc’s test u and since it had a crazy long half life it tapers me off by itself simply by stopping the injections. i stopped because i looked unironically 10x healthier before i started, that shit is riddled with contaminants. either get clean ass gear which sss clearly not what i had, or stick to natty , supplements and peptides.

 

[Bigbicep]

After cycle i personally like coming off completely for about 2-3 weeks so my levels go down then go on TRT.

If you did this won’t you have a peroid of time where you don’t have any test in your system?

 

[bigboy420]

If you did this won’t you have a peroid of time where you don’t have any test in your system?

Yea hes dumb
He likes to crash his lvls for funzies. Why not, the main thing is that he likes it.

Why does he like it? Just some shit he made up on his own and he likes to think on his own.

 

[Lift-to-failure]

If you did this won’t you have a peroid of time where you don’t have any test in your system?

Yea hes dumb
He likes to crash his lvls for funzies. Why not, the main thing is that he likes it.

Why does he like it? Just some shit he made up on his own and he likes to think on his own.

This was my test levels 4 weeks after cycle of 500mg test 200mg primo going back on trt.


View: https://imgur.com/a/j539Zka


It's 7500 ng/dl

So when I get bloodwork from my trt doctor right after cycle he will know something is up and cancel my prescription. So I come off completely to drive those numbers down for 2 weeks, make sense? So before calling people dumb maybe get the full story first

 

[bigboy420]

So before calling people dumb maybe get the full story first

Sorry yea, but met a dude at a party that cycles then stops for 3 months, repeat and thinks im crazy for being consistantly on 150mg trt.

Theres alot of dumb people in this game so i just assume it.

 

[Lift-to-failure]

Sorry yea, but met a dude at a party that cycles then stops for 3 months, repeat and thinks im crazy for being consistantly on 150mg trt.

Theres alot of dumb people in this game so i just assume it.

No worries brotha and ya there definitely is a lot of ignorance in this game for sure. Cheers mate.