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So are you thinking that the propylene glycol might have been causing problems? I'm curious what you were experiencing.
I want to so badly say yeah its the only variable so it has to be the culprit. But I haven't brewed with mig and can't say beyond the reason of a doubt there wasn't something more in the the limited oils I used of verified mig840.

If I can find a minimal amount. I will try mig840 alone and see how I react. So I can settle this looming question in my mind.
 
I want to so badly say yeah its the only variable so it has to be the culprit. But I haven't brewed with mig and can't say beyond the reason of a doubt there wasn't something more in the the limited oils I used of verified mig840.

If I can find a minimal amount. I will try mig840 alone and see how I react. So I can settle this looming question in my mind.
How much oil were you injecting? I think the FDA has put an acceptable limit even though propylene glycol has GRAS status.
 
How much oil were you injecting? I think the FDA has put an acceptable limit even though propylene glycol has GRAS status.
Differing amounts, my last time I used mig which was unintentional It was labled mct oil. Less than 3ml split 2x first couple times intentionally using.
Unintentionally this last time was atleast .5ml eod mixed into other oils.
 
Yes of course. Like I said I plan on running a heavy metal filtration protocol on the raws prior to brewing just to be safe. Will be working in a atmospheric controlled setup with HEPA filtration. I mean I don't mind using BA 1% tbh I'm just trying to make something with literally -100% PIP that just sits in the depot and gets metabolized without causing my skin to turn brown. I have to wait a couple weeks before that area looks normal color again and keep rotating injection sites. Tbh the pip isn't even an issue it's just the discoloration tbh. If I can make something that just lumps in the depot without discoloration I don't even care if it's sore tbh.
I did this experiment with literally only mct oil and it still gave swelling, possibly it was the enanthate raws themselves though. The current ugl I use by contrast gives zero swelling and they use the normal solvents. My point being I don’t think the solvents are the culprit for subq lumps.
 
I did this experiment with literally only mct oil and it still gave swelling, possibly it was the enanthate raws themselves though. The current ugl I use by contrast gives zero swelling and they use the normal solvents. My point being I don’t think the solvents are the culprit for subq lumps.
Is the current ugl also Test E? Is it in GSO or MCT?
 
Awww thanks for helpful reply, I know youre just jealous that you need to go IM to get an erection while some of us don't, but that's no way to vent your frustrations my guy.

Enjoy the scar tissue buildup in your fascia and the eventually full body pain, stiffness and immobility into your old age. See I actually look forward to injecting because it is literally unnoticeable (aside from the issue I mentioned 24hrs later). With the right brew I could do this 3x a day until I die. Gladly. Bet you can't say the same (shoulder shrug emoji).

Now if you have some useful advice id love to hear it. If not feel free to keep chirping into the void (double thumbs up emoji) lol

After years of 21 & 23g pins, I have no scar tissue. I think it might be an individual thing or injection technique.
 
Is the current ugl also Test E? Is it in GSO or MCT?
I’ve tried their mast p and their test e subq and no lumps for either. It’s literally like water. Sesame for the mast, GSO for the Test E. Also BA BB and EO and I believe some mct in the Test E also. Don’t think specifying the source is allowed outside of underground tho? But dm me if you want to know
 
I personally had to use way more BB than this but I brewed mine upwards 370 mg/ml. 45% BB to 50%. It works well but not thin even then lol..... 15% seems like hell.... Warming works but it's not the most time efficient use of my time
To each their own I stated my case, in your formula BB is technically the carrier.

I just man up and take the warmed honey shot, 3 whole ml once a week. I don’t understand what such a minimal amount of castor does to extend the half life in any other case tbh.
 
To each their own I stated my case, in your formula BB is technically the carrier.

I just man up and take the warmed honey shot, 3 whole ml once a week. I don’t understand what such a minimal amount of castor does to extend the half life in any other case tbh.
So Pharma nebido made by Bayer that has 50% BB is made by a bunch of retards I guess. Ok
 
To each their own I stated my case, in your formula BB is technically the carrier.

I just man up and take the warmed honey shot, 3 whole ml once a week. I don’t understand what such a minimal amount of castor does to extend the half life in any other case tbh.

Someone posted a study earlier. Castor oil doesn't make that big of a difference. I forget how much but it wasn't mind blowing.
 
Someone posted a study earlier. Castor oil doesn't make that big of a difference. I forget how much but it wasn't mind blowing.
But there’s the communially accepted multiple studies that say otherwise. 50% increase in half life. Which wraps me back to my point is it’s the concentration of the castor that makes a real difference- I’m just assuming.

Regardless if somehow that school of thought was wrong, there’s countless benefits of castor vs seed oil for your body. Or something like mig840…
 
So Pharma nebido made by Bayer that has 50% BB is made by a bunch of retards I guess. Ok

I didn’t say that? I said my opinion is that having BB be 50% of the composition, TU is another 25%. Castor oil is left at 25% of the solution. It’s an additive and BB is the carrier.

Obviously I like the idea of castor. I like it a lot. That’s the beauty of homebrew- if I have a preference for maximum organic oil:solvent ratio I’m not chained to bayer or aveed. I do what I want
 
520mg/ml Test D
1.5/20 BA/BB
1/2 MCT 1/2 Castor

Crashed really bad in freezer but uncrashed in room temperature on its own.
I found it abit too thick tho. Might try going for a higher mg/ml with lower castor %...
 
Test D can be brewed upwards of 500mg/ml with no BB using MIG.
I reckon 100% MIG = MCT + ~10% BB.

I've got 2 vials enroute to AB which are at higher doses which seems to hold at room temperature for at least a week, but crashes BAD in the freezer. No PIP either.
 
Test D can be brewed upwards of 500mg/ml with no BB using MIG.
I reckon 100% MIG = MCT + ~10% BB.

I've got 2 vials enroute to AB which are at higher doses which seems to hold at room temperature for at least a week, but crashes BAD in the freezer. No PIP either.
When you say MIG, do you mean MIG812 and how does that differ from MCT?
 
When you say MIG, do you mean MIG812 and how does that differ from MCT?
no he means mig840, mig812 it holds the same as MCT (as it is basically MCT 60/40 just with tighter specifications)

I would still use BB even when brewing with MIG840. Because I found pins being smoother and less chances of PIP with a minimum of BB helping in keeping the steroid raw in solution even so it looks like it's not needed for some of it.

A basic 20%BB works for almost any recipes with mig840 the only one you can use less are: EQ/DECA/TEST D and I would still use 15% for all three.
 

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