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So if you use it fresh, brew all of it immediately, you're good to go. If you try to store any amount of time ,it starts to break down, oxidizes, and it goes to shit.
strongly disagree with this. tried fresh test E. makes 0 difference.


do you have anything to support this or all speculation?
 
strongly disagree with this. tried fresh test E. makes 0 difference.


do you have anything to support this or all speculation?
It's happened to me half a dozen times at least... Over several year period of time.. batch after batch after batch.. It shows up as a white powder You can brew a hundred grams of it, It's smooth as butter and you can put it in the safe or wherever you store your stuff and it'll stay smooth as butter till you use the last drop, but that part that you didn't use that you store somewhere, when it melts it turns yellow like Vaseline, And if you try to chill it in the freezer, It doesn't get hard and recrystallize It just turns into cold Vaseline, a yellow pliable solid.. as soon as you brew that stuff it'll have you walking funny for a week wherever you inject it.. I went through it for years and years... And then I spent about a month searching through this forum and basically everything I said is spelled out in plain English on here, It just helps me connect the dots... I just kept getting the same thing happening over and over and I couldn't figure out why the first stuff I made was perfect and the second stuff was always trash, eventually I wised up and just quit buying it and started buying cypionate. If you search on here long enough you'll find everything I just said verified by dozens of people, The post go back for years and years and it's the same problem with person after person
 
And the reason for it is also documented with laboratory tests and everything from Jano, because he had some that was sitting in his lab for a couple years and it did the same thing so he decided to test it and try to figure out what was going on, And he describes on here clearly what the issue is.. he actually tested the potency when he originally got it and after it turned yellow and did what I described, And it had up to a 10% difference in it as well as it was contaminated with two things, It's Delta something.. and a particular acid that appears as it degrades
 
But some people get tested e That's completely fine just like the old school stuff, It's hit or miss You never know how they manufactured it and which batch is made one way and which is made the other way so it's a roll of the dice, normally when a steroid melts, once you get it cold again it turns into a hard chunk that you can break apart, but the test e , does not do that It turns into a gooey yellow funk, And the longer it sits the less pure it becomes, It's all on here if you spend a couple hours reading there's so much information on here it's crazy and it goes back almost 5 to 10 years at least
 
Ehh, been seeing guys complain about test e and primo pip for years. You can give 10 different individuals the same product and a select few will complain of pip while the others won’t. Stick around long enough and you’ll just start skipping over pip reports. If you don’t get pip then chances are you never really will unless you pin something made of an unusual high concentration or from a blend. If you do get pip then you’ll likely continue to get it from that product going forward.

Edit: with that said, the raw game is weird right now so not discrediting it could be the raws as of late.
 
Interesting discussion. Last time I dealt with Test e raws was 2017 years ago and I don’t recall having this problem. Something must have changed - makes sense.
 
It's happened to me half a dozen times at least... Over several year period of time.. batch after batch after batch.. It shows up as a white powder You can brew a hundred grams of it, It's smooth as butter and you can put it in the safe or wherever you store your stuff and it'll stay smooth as butter till you use the last drop, but that part that you didn't use that you store somewhere, when it melts it turns yellow like Vaseline, And if you try to chill it in the freezer, It doesn't get hard and recrystallize It just turns into cold Vaseline, a yellow pliable solid.. as soon as you brew that stuff it'll have you walking funny for a week wherever you inject it.. I went through it for years and years... And then I spent about a month searching through this forum and basically everything I said is spelled out in plain English on here, It just helps me connect the dots... I just kept getting the same thing happening over and over and I couldn't figure out why the first stuff I made was perfect and the second stuff was always trash, eventually I wised up and just quit buying it and started buying cypionate. If you search on here long enough you'll find everything I just said verified by dozens of people, The post go back for years and years and it's the same problem with person after person
You're right, the reason some Enan tests are painless is that they are stored at low temperatures to prevent this degradation and to keep them fresh in powder form, since Enan melts at room temperature. And I can't explain why, once melted, the batches become unbearably painful to apply. I learned the hard way. I now have a mini fridge for the raw materials :)
 
You're right, the reason some Enan tests are painless is that they are stored at low temperatures to prevent this degradation and to keep them fresh in powder form, since Enan melts at room temperature. And I can't explain why, once melted, the batches become unbearably painful to apply. I learned the hard way. I now have a mini fridge for the raw materials :)
I often wondered if you could do that.. I've vacuum seal All my stuff and put it in a waterproof container. But I wasn't sure about refrigerating it.. I know people say not to freeze some of it.. but everybody says something different about everything sometimes it's hard to differentiate what's true and what isn't... I have a bottle of EQ I've been keeping in the fridge but that's the only thing.
I knew I wasn't crazy, lol It happened to me so many times, for years on end.
 
I had a million different theories too, maybe it was contaminated, maybe I added too much BA accidentally, maybe there was moisture.. I tried heating it up while stirring it to try to drive the alcohol out of it, venting and baking the vials in the oven to try to sterilize them, all kinds of goofy shit I read online that people told me to try, but in the end there was no fixing that stuff, once it melts and turns yellow it's pretty much garbage, meanwhile I had 100 ml vials sitting in the safe that were 3 years old, And as fresh as the day I made them, lol that shit drove me crazy for years trying to figure it out
 
You're right, the reason some Enan tests are painless is that they are stored at low temperatures to prevent this degradation and to keep them fresh in powder form, since Enan melts at room temperature. And I can't explain why, once melted, the batches become unbearably painful to apply. I learned the hard way. I now have a mini fridge for the raw materials :)
Enan melts at room temperature? What?
 
Yeah really,lol..l all it takes is for somebody to turn the heat up to high in the winter for a couple hours, or open a window at night and forget to close it in the morning in the summer, It's quite easy actually unless you live alone in a temperature controlled vault, especially if you have children. I couldn't tell you how many times I've come home and the house was hot as hell because it got too cold over the night and somebody shut the AC off.. it'll melt from the warmth of your skin if it's pure, were not talking extreme temperatures here.
 
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