AllGoodThings
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I'd be very interested in the results of such a test. I like to keep stocked up on things, but when the shelf life is in doubt, it's difficult to know how much to store
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Injectable Glutathione Recipe
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Photon
Member
pH 6.4 stored @ 5 degrees celsius -- 4 months, 0% degradation
based off this
JustJoe
New Member
I need to order some non-buffered glutathione. My Korean Glutaone is pre-buffered. And my L Carn base mixed with just sterile water and BA is testing at pH of 8 which is leaving me scratching my head.
I knew it was going to be alkaline, but doesn’t that seem really high? I have it at 600mg/ml
I think I’m going to order some glacial acetic acid, or citric acid to be my acid pH adjuster
I knew it was going to be alkaline, but doesn’t that seem really high? I have it at 600mg/ml
I think I’m going to order some glacial acetic acid, or citric acid to be my acid pH adjuster
Photon
Member
Vitamin C?
Vitamin c? Lol .. I just made some injectable vitamin C, And that stuff is even more acidic than glutathione, I did some reading about it and I was able to get the pH up to 6, but it wasn't easy, way harder than glutathione, I actually passed it the first time and it all turned orange or brown I'm not sure which I'm color blind, but I oxidized it and destroyed it immediately. I got it down the second time, but you'll never raise the pH of anything with that stuff, It's acidic as hell. I also made Sampei's new recipe, but I used 12 g instead of 18 g, so it's 400mg instead of 600mg, I'm not sure why I guess I had a moment, lol It dawned on me as I was filtering it.
I think what it was is I concocted this plan to make 200/400 vitamin c/glutathione, And then I changed my mind quick because I didn't want to alter the recipe, and effect stability, And then I forgot to add the other 6 g.. I'm glad I didn't anyways, The solubility of vitamin C is very low.. I tried 200 mg And I barely achieved it, there was still some in solution that didn't completely dissolved and had to be removed with filtering. I'm guessing a 100 is more realistic, maybe 150..but it takes alot! of pure NaOH. And if you're not stirring it vigorously, And the Naoh gets caught on the surface at any point instead of in the solution, It oxidizes immediately and turns orange for brown. There's a whole thing about vitamin C and glutathione working together as one, supposedly it greatly enhances the other, I'm not sure if you guys have read up on it, but it's an interesting read, which is why I'm combining the two. But I don't think I plan on brewing them together ever. Supposedly vitamin C is what fuels glutathione to do its thing, at least that's what I came up with through research
Photon
Member
Some people here use it, but it does sting just fyi
Lol, I just found the website, They have all kinds of supplements that we use on here but for horse's apparently?
LGOP528
Member
Sooooo I was making 30 ml of B12 tonight and ChatGPT was very adamant about the PH being under 6 and I was sitting at 6.4. I got caught up on this thread the other day and decided to put some of this to use. I had the bright idea to use some glutathione to bring the PH down a little. I dropped just a little bit in and the PH went straight to 3.9. So I figured I would try to use the carnitine to bring it back up instead of the NaOH that I normally do. I was able to bring it back up to 5.75. Yea dosage is fucked but I don’t care.
Ok, to my question. This other thread says to heat the water to 175 f before adding the B12. I figured this was for dissolving the B12. I used pre mixed BAC and it was a little over 30ml. When I pulled everything out of the beaker, I had only 28 mL. I am sure some water evaporated but I am concerned most of it was the BA. Should I add 1% BA back in?
This stems from my normal brewing. My last step is to cut the heat and add the BA. I am not sure if it evaporating is a myth or not. I just figured doing this doesn’t hurt.
What do you guys think?
Ok, to my question. This other thread says to heat the water to 175 f before adding the B12. I figured this was for dissolving the B12. I used pre mixed BAC and it was a little over 30ml. When I pulled everything out of the beaker, I had only 28 mL. I am sure some water evaporated but I am concerned most of it was the BA. Should I add 1% BA back in?
This stems from my normal brewing. My last step is to cut the heat and add the BA. I am not sure if it evaporating is a myth or not. I just figured doing this doesn’t hurt.
What do you guys think?
Photon
Member
BA has a boiling point of 401 F / 205 C
What do you think
I just noticed you are using 175f for b12?
I don't think that's right
This is pharma b12.
Why not just get pharma?
MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'PCT 24X7 "1 stop shop for all day healthcare"'
For those interested in pharma B12.
Recently I bought a couple from this source to test out.
Methylcobalamin (2500mcg)
Niacinamide (100mg)
Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine) (100mg)
Comes in amps.
50 amps costed me $15.
Amps were dark amber and placed in blister packs.
Amps need to be kept <30c.
I broke all the amps, re-filtered and placed them in my own vials.
(Honestly not sure why SSA doesnt want to use Methylcobalamin for their UGL blends)
Recently I bought a couple from this source to test out.
Methylcobalamin (2500mcg)
Niacinamide (100mg)
Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine) (100mg)
Comes in amps.
50 amps costed me $15.
Amps were dark amber and placed in blister packs.
Amps need to be kept <30c.
I broke all the amps, re-filtered and placed them in my own vials.
(Honestly not sure why SSA doesnt want to use Methylcobalamin for their UGL blends)
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LGOP528
Member
Water is 212/100 and I put a thermometer to make use I was at 50 C. You can evaporate before reaching a boiling point. I clearly lost volume.BA has a boiling point of 401 F / 205 C
What do you think
Your emoji was cute though….
Photon
Member
I personally would not bother about adding BA back in.
To make it 30ml i'd add 2g more b12
.That's me tho.
How accurate is your weighing scale?
LGOP528
Member
I don’t want pharma because I enjoy the chemistry.BA has a boiling point of 401 F / 205 C
What do you think
I just noticed you are using 175f for b12?
I don't think that's right
This is pharma b12.
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Why not just get pharma?
MESO-Rx Sponsor Post in thread 'PCT 24X7 "1 stop shop for all day healthcare"'
For those interested in pharma B12.
Recently I bought a couple from this source to test out.
Methylcobalamin (2500mcg)
Niacinamide (100mg)
Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine) (100mg)
Comes in amps.
50 amps costed me $15.
Amps were dark amber and placed in blister packs.
Amps need to be kept <30c.
I broke all the amps, re-filtered and placed them in my own vials.
(Honestly not sure why SSA doesnt want to use Methylcobalamin for their UGL blends)
It is at this temp for just for a short time to help get it into solution. The color is still red no oxidation.
It’s a 100g scale with a precision of .001g. Is that good enough for you?
Photon
Member
LGOP528
Member
Well you have shown a great deal of knowledge on the subject. You have managed to not understand evaporation or the simple concept of conservation of mass. Then start asking about my equipment with the hopes of regaining some dignity by pointing out I am using the wrong scale.
I have not been on meso for a while because of cunts like you. Glad to see things have not changed.
Photon
Member
There is no dignity.
This is an online forum.
There's nothing to it.
Whatever posted here means nothing.
I would not use a 100g scale for weighing anything below 50g. But that's me, and I'm sure many will. The precision does not matter if the scale isnt accurate. For 30g i'd use a 50g scale but i guess if you had a heavy beaker or vial it would make sense to use 100g.
Yes you are completely right, you not need to hit the boiling point for a state change to occur. But you are saying that BA is evaporating at 50C when the boiling point is 205C. Does this even make sense to you? Do i even need to mention this?
Based off this logic, you would have lost alot of water at 50C as water has a much lower boiling point. Why not heat it up again to 50C and monitor the loss in volume?
Edited post to change to Celcius.
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LGOP528
Member
You are off the mark again. The calibration weight is 10g. The further you are from the calibration weight, the less accurate the scale is.
I use plastic try’s to weigh on. Using a beaker only sends you further from the calibration weight.
Yes, it is evaporating even at room temperature. The rate at which it evaporates increases with temperature.
Clearly the missing, let’s say 3 mL, is not all BA. I just don’t know how much of it would be the BA.
Probably just going to put in .5%.
