First time trying tren. Was impressed. Need to stop lmao

[gotmyles]

5 weeks on tren. The sleep sweats have finally begun and I am considering stopping by the 6 week mark.

Ive been WAY CHILLER AND LESS REACTIVE, than test/primo.

I've been running 350 test cyp, 280 masteron enan, 140 tren hex

I've gotten better result imo than running test primo in a way shorter time with less anger. Less acne

Only downside is how short the cycle is because I can't sleep officially haha.

I would totally clean out and attempt a lower dose for longer.

I'm super impressed with tren and what it does to the delt. I can get such a damn burn!!!!

 

[Palifter]

Some of you need to take up journaling rather than making a whole thread.

But yes, tren is the best steroid ever…just needs to be treated with caution.

 

[gotmyles]

I was drenched in sweat all night. Not sure if from tren or crashing estrogen from adding in primo.

Most likely and going to assume it's the tren. Propanolol did not help. Will try clonidine tonight and if the sweating is absolutely insane again. I am calling it a wrap on my first tren experiment at 5.5 weeks.

I have so many more experiments I need to run, this one answered so many questions for me..

Primo was increasing my anger and acne. Now confirmed

 

[CorgisOnTren]

Did you have a question or

 

[sliderke]

I am also first time on tren E 200mg in addition to the eq cycle.
Second week now. And I am also calmer than when I was on a deca cycle. Maybe the irritation still has to come. Or is it less on enanthate than acetate ?

 

[watchtymeflyyy]

I feel like Enanthate is super smooth with no sides. With Acetate, it peaks so fast… it keeps me always on high alert and constantly in fight or flight.

 

[gotmyles]

I've been using hex it's all I had access to lol.

Update. Tried propranolol. Not much.
Tried clonidine, and avoided caffeine... Miracle. Slept dry like a baby. I used ashwaghanda and magnesium but I suspect the clonidine and skipping caffeine had the biggest impact.

Ate a shit ton of carbs before bed like 250. Slept dry like a baby

 

[Ricky93]

Just an advice when trying new compounds go with shorter esters because the side effects won't go away for awhile

 

[gotmyles]

Just an advice when trying new compounds go with shorter esters because the side effects won't go away for awhile

I'm gonna attempt for week 6 because the sleeping on a towel with clonidine is a great bandaid for now.

Honestly I expected tren side effects to be a lot worse from the horrors I've heard.

I still respect it... I don't have the balls to use more than 140mg on my first go. And sadly hex ester was all I affordably had access to from panda labs. And it kinda kicks ass ngl

 

[Rbvasques]

If you want a feedback,
Go to tren ace, do small dose daily of 15mg, you will likely have more results with less sides.

 

[gotmyles]

Yes and if four more people say the same thing I would agree to you and them too . Didn't have access though.

I've seen several people consider 140 a low dose. Which is why I willed to attempt this.


once or twice I've seen people recommend longer esters if you're not running a high dose. Just for the anti catabolic effect. Not as the workhorse of the cycle.

So under this logic , although not optimal for everyone. I've given it a try. And I'm not mad at all. What a sweet cycle and a fraction of my usual cycle. I'm thinking too much coffee at night is what doomed me with night sweats. I guess u can't do that on tren.

If tonight is smooth sailing like last night and sleep like a baby again , then I'll finish out another week.

From what I understand 6-8 weeks is what's bearable for most people and I'm going into the 6th, optimism not yet crushed. but I don't think I'm special and not going to test my luck and I'm proud of my level of constrain honestly.

On test primo I was pushing 1.6grams , no bueno

 

[Sickxlost]

Why would you stop at 6 weeks?

Is it A, E or H your running?

 

[gotmyles]

Why would you stop at 6 weeks?

Apparently you go insane or something and develop a lady boy fetish, I am trying to be responsible and avoid this because I have a family

Why would you stop at 6 weeks?

Is it A, E or H your running?

Hex

 

[Sickxlost]

Apparently you go insane or something and develop a lady boy fetish, I am trying to be responsible and avoid this because I have a family

Hex

your not wrong. Tren gives you some wild thoughts but I never went the lady boy route

I’d say stick it out, enjoy the ride a little bit. Tren really starts to shine around week 12

 

[xrayphoton13]

I've been using hex it's all I had access to lol.

Update. Tried propranolol. Not much.
Tried clonidine, and avoided caffeine... Miracle. Slept dry like a baby. I used ashwaghanda and magnesium but I suspect the clonidine and skipping caffeine had the biggest impact.

Ate a shit ton of carbs before bed like 250. Slept dry like a baby

Caffeine near bed makes sleep difficult. I actually can't take it past early afternoon if I want to sleep well. Ashwaganda (ksm-66) is great for sleep. So is magnesium, l-theanine, melatonin, etc. there's a lot to help. With tren I like to keep it colder and even sleep on top of the blanket with a towel under me sometimes bc getting under the blanket I can get way too hot. Skip food before bed, especially carbs as that will crank up the heat and sweat for sure as you burn through them. I know you said you slept fine after eating a bunch of carbs and I'm shocked. If I was eating before bed I knew I was gonna sweat big time

Oh and there's absolutely nothing wrong with tren hex. That's a great ester. For many it's their favorite flavor of tren.

 

[gotmyles]

Update for the two nights since last update:

Tried 0.1 clonidine, slept terrible again. sweaty and irritated next morning.

Then next night last night, I tried .2 clonidine again. Worked like a miracle again. And keep in mind this is after meat eggs rice Greek yogurt and grapes and honey all RIGHT before bed
(and I'm talking like 250 carbs + 200 protein)

50 from Greek yogurt 75 from ground beef 4 eggs 5 cups of milk and a protein scoop too

So my sleep stack is .2mg clonidine, 800mg magnesium glycine, 1300mg ashwaghanda, boron glycine form now brand

I have 10 days worth of clonidine and so realistically I'm going to finish 6weeks, last dose on 14th and then let the hex ester essentially continue to work for two for weeks.

I've already started titrating primo in so I'll be raising the primo as I drop the tren.

 

[Palifter]

Update for the two nights since last update:

Tried 0.1 clonidine, slept terrible again. sweaty and irritated next morning.

Then next night last night, I tried .2 clonidine again. Worked like a miracle again. And keep in mind this is after meat eggs rice Greek yogurt and grapes and honey all RIGHT before bed
(and I'm talking like 250 carbs + 200 protein)

50 from Greek yogurt 75 from ground beef 4 eggs 5 cups of milk and a protein scoop too

So my sleep stack is .2mg clonidine, 800mg magnesium glycine, 1300mg ashwaghanda, boron glycine form now brand

I have 10 days worth of clonidine and so realistically I'm going to finish 6weeks, last dose on 14th and then let the hex ester essentially continue to work for two for weeks.

I've already started titrating primo in so I'll be raising the primo as I drop the tren.

If you’re truly eating this much right before bed, this is your issue….

 

[CorgisOnTren]

If you’re truly eating this much right before bed, this is your issue….

This. It’s the 250g carbs not 140 tren lol

 

[craigdt]

Apparently you go insane or something and develop a lady boy fetish, I am trying to be responsible and avoid this because I have a family

You read that post on reddit too?

We need more data points.

Keep your tren cycle going long term and let us know if you also develop a lady boy fetish.

 

[ashenlmao]

how long do you have to stay on to become a lady boy? asking for a friend