The generic vs pharma GH discussion

[brutalbuilt]

Try 18ius of setostim and 18ius of underground GH and you will see what happens to your physique.

i did that lol thats what confirmed to me generics are the same as pharma

i did 2 vials of generics before bed and woke up pumped and stayed pumped for the whole day shit was magic

and i used to think pharma was way better until that happened

 

[AlexDavis43]

i did that lol thats what confirmed to me generics are the same as pharma

i did 2 vials of generics before bed and woke up pumped and stayed pumped for the whole day shit was magic

and i used to think pharma was way better until that happened

but it wasn't even tested by NMR to see if the GH molecule was misfolded so how can you know

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

but it wasn't even tested by NMR to see if the GH molecule was misfolded so how can you know

Take some lessons on how to fold the HGH when you take it out of the dryer you clown

 

[brutalbuilt]

but it wasn't even tested by NMR to see if the GH molecule was misfolded so how can you know

cant tell if your joking or not but i hope you are

 

[AlexDavis43]

cant tell if your joking or not but i hope you are

yes joking

 

[readalot]

Thoughts/suggestions?

R

Post in thread 'Cloudy/Lumpy HGH'

Jul 9, 2025

What do you say we all start a special projects MESO fund for testing? Any interest in a separate thread to spread the word?

For any GH "special" testing, I pitch we do it as a group to help build community here at MESO. I will commit $500 (and some product as part of the testing if we do head to head comparisons). Thoughts?

My concern at this point is Jano's bandwidth and people sending in product separately (pharma vs "generic"). Hence, logistically it may make sense for one person to send samples. Anyway, I'll support whatever the team thinks has best chance for credibility and...

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[readalot]

Timely to our discussions on the need to evaluate UG GH using bioassays. Comparison of the methods below (see supplement for more info). This may be a big lift for our MESO testing team to do but would be the money shot IMO (similar to HPLC testing for Testosterone product vs using blood work). Would complement the serum GH testing after IM injection of somatropin.

An improved reporter gene assay for evaluating the biological activity of recombinant human growth hormone

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2095177924001709

Nice info in the supplementary data:

https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S2095177924001709-mmc1.docx

Comparison of the RGA vs rat in vivo vs Nb2 cell line bioassay (Table S2).

If we cant find a lab to do the Nb2 cell line bioassay, maybe we can do a paper with this PI (or at least pay them to do a head to head comparison of UG vs Pharma with their RGA).

 

[Ateam2023]

Thoughts/suggestions?

R

Post in thread 'Cloudy/Lumpy HGH'

Jul 9, 2025

What do you say we all start a special projects MESO fund for testing? Any interest in a separate thread to spread the word?

For any GH "special" testing, I pitch we do it as a group to help build community here at MESO. I will commit $500 (and some product as part of the testing if we do head to head comparisons). Thoughts?

My concern at this point is Jano's bandwidth and people sending in product separately (pharma vs "generic"). Hence, logistically it may make sense for one person to send samples. Anyway, I'll support whatever the team thinks has best chance for credibility and...

• readalot

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This is a redeeming Quality i have for @readalot , he is and has been willing to put up $ for the sake of harm reduction, unlike @Ghoul , who just wants to talk and "post What ifs" about "potential harm" from "not filtering" or "misfolded proteins" etc,, Seems obvious to me who has the real "harm reduction" argument in the grand scheme of things,, Thank you @readalot for your contribution to harm reduction,,

 

[readalot]

redeeming Quality

Well damn, I got one? I'll take it! Thank you Sir.

 

[Ateam2023]

Well damn, I got one? I'll take it! Thank you Sir.

maybe a poor choice of words on my part, you've never had to redeem yourself to me, You Ahhright,,

 

[readalot]

maybe a poor choice of words on my part, you've never had to redeem yourself to me, You Ahhright,,

No worries at all. You are accurate. I am a PITA.

Back at Ya Brother. It is always good talking to you here.

 

[BamaCrazy]

No worries at all. You are accurate. I am a PITA.

Back at Ya Brother. It is always good talking to you here.

The first step to getting help is admitting you have a problem.

 

[BP_6]

I like this discussion and I would use pharm grade in hearbeat all things being equal. However it will never be an issue for me and likely many others as true pharm grade HGH is just too far out of the price range to be somewhat financially responsible.

If you are fortunate with the funds to be able to afford it, I think that is the way to go.

 

[readalot]

The first step to getting help is admitting you have a problem.

I already tried to get help. The therapists all fired me.

 

[AlexDavis43]

If we cant find a lab to do the Nb2 cell line bioassay, maybe we can do a paper with this PI (or at least pay them to do a head to head comparison of UG vs Pharma with their RGA).

This is in the territory of a CRO and that means ballpark pricing will be at least in the thousands of dollars

Is the point really just trying to figure out if pharma GH is better than UGL? (so more personal curiosity than harm reduction)

 

[readalot]

Is the point really just trying to figure out if pharma GH is better than UGL? (so more personal curiosity than harm reduction)

I am sure you are right. More personal curiosity. Looking at HCP profiles between pharma and GH may be more in line with harm reduction.

I used UG GH and I am still here. I itched like hell on "generic" but was not irreversibly harmed from what i can tell. Neither the Seros nor the "premium" UG GH made me itch.

The itch was bad enough that I would not use the "generic" again. I also got a very weird side on it that I just dont feel comfortable going into here. Fortunately it was reversible. Be careful is all I can say.

 

[JuiceStick]

Interesting you mention this. I also was itching more than usual after bumping the dose of Lobster HGH. It's tolerable and I am not getting any other sides I am aware of.

 

[readalot]

Interesting you mention this. I also was itching more than usual after bumping the dose of Lobster HGH. It's tolerable and I am not getting any other sides I am aware of.

Thanks for sharing. Haven't read about this side effect being reported much.

 

[verylargeshoes]

Take some lessons on how to fold the HGH when you take it out of the dryer you clown

I bet I could learn how to fold HGH before I learn how to fold a fitted sheet.

 

[BamaCrazy]

I bet I could learn how to fold HGH before I learn how to fold a fitted sheet.

Who in hell knows how to fold a true fitted sheet?? Lol

I bet even Martha Stewart doesn’t know how. That’s one of the mysteries of the universe.