I’m new to steroids I have done research but honestly it’s hard to find real knowledgeable people hence why I’m new to meso. I have started a cycle of 250 test c a week, 25mg dbol, and 6iu of hgh,and I’m starting to get gyno and look puffy. Ik the basic AI protocols however I’m worried about neuro toxicity and other issues that come from it. I’m wondering if it would just be better to use a dht, if that is even a thing I heard somewhere it can prevent E2 conversion.
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AI vs DHT
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I’m trying to just put on as much size I’m not afraid of watery look. Would a DHT work better? My bad I’m new to forums and intros I haven’t done this before I will definitely do better
Oh I’m sorry I didn’t see the first question yes this is my very first cycle I’m trying to take it easy, what do you think ?
Bandern
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Dbol is giving you gyno. Stop using dbol. It sounds like this is your first cycle? Stick with test and slowly titrate your dose up and try not to grow boobs. Sounds like you need more experience and research. So you should reach for an ai before a dht.
I don’t want this come off badly but I came here to learn if that makes sense ik that might be annoying to some but ik there are a lot of vets here who know what they are doing so I came here to discuss things I don’t wanna just google yk? I’ll drop the DBOL to reduce gyno.
dinfar1337
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250mg is almost trt. brother you are getting boobs from the dbol 100%.
for now drop dbol and stick with test to see if you have high estrogen from it in 1-2 months time
dinfar1337
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i will always recommend nolvadex over ai to anyone new, so you know what your numbers on just testosterone looks like without anything else.
ai will lower your estrogen and if u crash it too hard u will cry.
ai will lower your estrogen and if u crash it too hard u will cry.
Prince Charming
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I’m yet to start HGH (some on the way as of today) but that seems like a very high amount to start off on. From what I’ve read, people start at 2iu typically and work up over the course of a few months. Again I haven’t started it yet myself but just something to be looking into. I’m sure you’ll get some actual user responses here soon. Regarding DHT, my first cycle I did 500mg test, 25 anavar last 6 weeks, and e2 was like 110. I didn’t have any sides except for some acne really but upping my frequency of injections dropped e2 a lot . 2nd cycle I ended up doing same dose test but added primo at 300mg. This helped keep me nice and dry so yes a dht can help.
imma try superdrol instead I like feeling watery and I like the strength from dbol. I started Dbol for the rapid strength. But also I don’t wanna have tits so imma do what you said, what do u think about superdrol?
dinfar1337
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i already answered you; only test and nolvadex is my recommendation to see how you react to it. you can add superdrol in your next cycle. where is the patience man
Bandern
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Yea please for the love of god drop the dbol lmao stick with test and GH. 6iu seems high but if you’re tolerating it well then rock on.
Get the gyno symptoms to stop and bump the test up. Get an AI or some nolvadex to keep on hand.
The hgh is rlly high and that could be what causing a lot of water, but I’m trying to slowly spike igf1 safely I tried igf1 lr3 and I went hypoglycemic (yes completely my fault). For my first cycle I’m trying to put as much size without putting my liver in the ER I have TUDCA for my liver and and I’m getting bloodwork for my HDL and LDL. Imma try adding primo to potential help with too much water thank you for your input I appreciate all knowledge
BigDadd7
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You're doing everything wrong. First post complains about being puffy. The next you say you don't care about being watery. You went right to dbol. Way too much hgh for the first time. You don't want to google anything for yourself. You want to be spoon fed. But you also dont want to listen. Seriously, quit while you're ahead.
I didn’t clarify I’m sorry for that when I meant puffy I was referring to my nipples from the gyno. I don’t mean to come off ignorant I’m new and yes I’m trying to learn. That’s why I posted
Bandern
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My brother in Christ you do not need any orals right now. Test is the nectar of the gods. Master that before adding in anything else. It’s your first cycle, test only can pack slabs of meat on you if your diet and training is on point.
dinfar1337
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this guy is a yes-man. please dont tell him to jump off a building
So accepting advice is being a yes man? Would it be worse to be hard headed I’m just trying to learn from people who know what they are doinf
Prince Charming
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I think you should take a step back and seriously consider maybe you are trying to push it too fast. If you plan on doing this for the long run then it would be best to see how you react to individual compounds before just throwing something else in trying to mask your sides. I do agree with what the other people are saying regarding dbol. You are your own man and are gonna make your own decisions but dropping that and reducing the hgh will help a lot I’m sure. I’d recommend do test for the time being and after you look over your blood work, decide if a dht or ai is worth adding in. Good luck out there.
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