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Anyone have experiences with test undecanoate?
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Banana Joe
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Yes, I just run 250mg as a baseline with whatever else I feel like adding on top. I treat it as 200mg of Test E (I know the math is a bit off...).
What you should NOT do is to frontload 2g to get your levels up to a steady state as fast as possible! I know that would work perfectly fine according to online steroid calculators but the reality looks a bit different!
How do I know? Well take a guess...
It’s a lot less potent it’s only used for TRT not bodybuilding cause you would have to take SO much to equal that of body building dose. Great cause it doesn’t kill your live like you know methyl test which they gave to kids… back in the day.
68 per 100 for Cyp
62 per 100 for U
Its not the amount you would need its the time for levels to rise and subsequently fall.
Fuck I misread again I might need an eye doctor can someone from Meso check me out. I thought this was about Testosterone Undecanoate oral that is used in trt hence why I brought up methyl test and how bad it was. And why I said it is poorly absorbed. My bad
lukiss96
Member
I do. I have used it for few years. Upping the dose for blasting and then tapering down in to trt. As I'm in no rush, I like to enjoy the process while getting things done my way.
What I really like about it is constantly stable Testosterone levels. Injecting only once per week. Not having those days like feeling down if I missed my scheduled injection. Somehow I feel it's more effective and should I say stronger for me, at least going by feels, possibly due to me being a fast metabolizer of drugs.
However, I experienced more blood pressure problems with this ester. Everybody is different and therefore experiences effects and side effects differently. I got my bp under control by taking telmisartan. All in all it took my body a long time to adjust and get used to Testosterone undecanoate.
What I really like about it is constantly stable Testosterone levels. Injecting only once per week. Not having those days like feeling down if I missed my scheduled injection. Somehow I feel it's more effective and should I say stronger for me, at least going by feels, possibly due to me being a fast metabolizer of drugs.
However, I experienced more blood pressure problems with this ester. Everybody is different and therefore experiences effects and side effects differently. I got my bp under control by taking telmisartan. All in all it took my body a long time to adjust and get used to Testosterone undecanoate.
MuscularMD
Member
Can’t find any ugl with castor. Only MCT or GSO sadly.
I have a small supply of U for when I go on vacation for a week or three. I don’t like carrying needles internationally.
Buy from a small brewer with a good track record
BabaJagga
Member
if you are from eu, opti has U in castor.
BabaJagga
Member
how stable would be one pin every 14 days?
if you inject 250mg every 7 days, could you do 500mg every 14?
Spaceman Spiff
Subscriber
lets think of it this way.
Test C half life and frequency of pin. some people do every 3-4 days. Test U would be fine.
Thats what I did
I didn't get a lipid because this came from my trt clinic. Not really too worried as I was just on trt.
It was not a fasting lab and it was 6 hours after a workout.
Main reason for this is to show test U 500-550 every 2 weeks
This is a trough lab test.
It was not a fasting lab and it was 6 hours after a workout.
Main reason for this is to show test U 500-550 every 2 weeks
This is a trough lab test.
BabaJagga
Member
lets think of it this way.
Test C half life and frequency of pin. some people do every 3-4 days. Test U would be fine.
Thats what I did
I didn't get a lipid because this came from my trt clinic. Not really too worried as I was just on trt.
It was not a fasting lab and it was 6 hours after a workout.
Main reason for this is to show test U 500-550 every 2 weeks
This is a trough lab test.
Thanks!
my goal is to pin as little as possible (frequency) so once every 14 days it would be great
Banana Joe
Member
What @Spaceman Spiff tried to say that if u are fine with Test E/C e4d then you will be fine with e14d for Test U. You will hover circa between 75% and 100% of max level with both of those options.
Wizbang
Member
Due to the longer duration = more aromatization?
It doesn't it's quite the opposite, less peak less aromatization
Banana Joe
Member
That might be the case on paper, but I can tell you from first hand experience, that it does have a significant peak at least in estrogen.
My lingering gyno flared up like crazy when I frontloaded 2g (over the course of a few days to a week) to get to peak serum concentration for 250mg faster. According to internet steroid calculators this should not have happened - hence my post above.
On 250mg I don't any further gyno issues at all, since around a year that I've been on it.
dinfar1337
New Member
ofc you frontloaded 2g. making it drop slower over the course of 20 days is still like loading 100mg fluctaction onto your system every day. thats 700mg of test a week worth in fluctactions.
Spaceman Spiff
Subscriber
any lab work?
Banana Joe
Member
I don't remember exactly how I frontloaded, I may have done 1000mg initially and then did a few hundred each day, I really don't remember.
For simplicity's sake I just redid the calculation with 2x1000mg a week and I can't see no peak of test, so I assumed there would not be a drastic peak of E2. There is NO WAY I would have gotten that bad of a gyno if these plotters were acurate at all, unless I initially converted all test to E2...
I can't see any meaningful fluctuations in those two different curves. According to them test just goes up rapidly, and that is it.
My gyno shrank down again to almost to where it was before that frontload, which is evidence enough for me that E2 must have been a lot higher during the front load phase. I have no issues 250mg at all, like I said the gyno even started to shrink after maybe 6-8 weeks.
Unfortunately no. But like reasoned above, my E2 must have been through the roof. Vigorous Steve said the same about Test U peaking way higher than what it should on paper if doing a higher dose. He might even have spoken about E2 specifically. Can't remember the video though I saw it maybe a 2 weeks after I had done the frontload, LOL.
If I had to by feelz I'd say I was on 1g test E, judging on how bad the gyno got in just days.
First screenshot is roidplanner.com and 2nd steroidplotter.com
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dinfar1337
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you are right, i tried to explain to u the frontload put a androgen and fluctaction load of 700mg test a week on u for the first half life of 20 days. probably few more until its completely stable but nothing like the first half life.
hormone fluctactions dosent discriminate if the compound u are taking is more stable. u went from 0>1000% in 1 day. if u did it right and waited the half life out the loading phase would have been more stable than other compounds, and that is why we call it more stable.
ofc u are lucky its 20 day half life. the other compounds if u front loaded with them and they're even less stable would have caused you more gyno, although u would probably front load less so it would balance out but u get what i mean
