Hgh Vs Tesamorelin

[Ateam2023]

Always good to start with a baseline igf1 test before starting hgh,,

 

[undersc0re]

2 iu of hgh morning and 1.5-2 mg of tesa b4 bed would probably be a good combo with reta

 

[Photon]

2 iu of hgh morning and 1.5-2 mg of tesa b4 bed would probably be a good combo with reta

Tesa increases natural production.
Your body stops production when you inject hgh.
Therefore tesa does nothing.

 

[desertchrome]

Your body stops production when you inject hgh.

Suppression is short lived. Taking a shot of GH in the morning, for example, would not necessarily suppress your natural night time bolus depending on the dose. 2IU in the morning, with GH's half life, would probably not have any impact on natural production that night...

 

[dick_starbuck]

Suppression is short lived. Taking a shot of GH in the morning, for example, would not necessarily suppress your natural night time bolus depending on the dose. 2IU in the morning, with GH's half life, would probably not have any impact on natural production that night...

No. Its suppression lasts longer than that. Something in the neighborhood of 36 hours of suppression from a supraphysiological shot of GH if I recall correctly.

They dont mix. Dont bother.

 

[Type-IIx]

So I have Stage 2 fatty liver disease and I cannot decide between HGH or Tesamorelin.Currently I'm on 10 mg retatrutide per week and 200 mg test prop. I really wanna focus on losing visceral fat and fatty liver.Does anyone have experience with these compounds?Any advice?

Fatty liver disease can really prevent either one, tesamorelin or rhGH, from increasing IGF-I, through which a lot of GH benefits come from, since your liver will tend to be less responsive to GH. If I were you, I’d probably focus on the medically recommended treatments first, but that’s just me!

 

[undersc0re]

Tesa increases natural production.
Your body stops production when you inject hgh.
Therefore tesa does nothing.

So for an older person aiming mostly for visceral fat reduction and reducing love handles one would be better off just cutting out hgh while using tesamorelin if doing it ever day? What about substituting ipamorelin for hgh in the morning is that over doing it or a waste?

 

[dick_starbuck]

So for an older person aiming mostly for visceral fat reduction and reducing love handles one would be better off just cutting out hgh while using tesamorelin if doing it ever day? What about substituting ipamorelin for hgh in the morning is that over doing it or a waste?

For visceral fat reduction you could use tesamorelin at the recommended 2mg daily dose, and forget the HGH.

Are you doing daily cardio? Fasted cardio? If so, yohimbine HCL could be an effective tool especially combined with an ECA stack.

Those things together will work just fine, in conjunction with an appropriate diet.

Keep it simple.

 

[krakmonkey]

For visceral fat reduction you could use tesamorelin at the recommended 2mg daily dose, and forget the HGH.

Are you doing daily cardio? Fasted cardio? If so, yohimbine HCL could be an effective tool especially combined with an ECA stack.

Those things together will work just fine, in conjunction with an appropriate diet.

Keep it simple.

all of those are great but its most important to remember without calorie deficit your not going to get anything

 

[undersc0re]

For visceral fat reduction you could use tesamorelin at the recommended 2mg daily dose, and forget the HGH.

Are you doing daily cardio? Fasted cardio? If so, yohimbine HCL could be an effective tool especially combined with an ECA stack.

Those things together will work just fine, in conjunction with an appropriate diet.

Keep it simple.

I just do 2 10 min 140 bpm per day and a couple walks, and weights of course. Oh I am up to 5mg tirzepatide as well, down 50lbs since Jan. Also eat clean for the most part, no booze, and fast between 19:00 and 08:00 every day.

 

[Oldhand]

Dnp is quite effective in reversing fatty liver from what i read in the studies.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...UQFnoECBUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw16PJWa00Cbf4-c7IzLFmAu

Hey Djedo, I hope you got enough advice on the origins question. Since this is a harm reduction board I wanted to chime in on the DNP part ( I know this isn’t your plan A).

I’ve done 10 cycles or so of DNP. Honestly, I don’t think I’ll ever do DNP again. GLPs just do too good of a job and don’t have the side effects that DNP has.

With DNP the worst case scenario is you die. Let’s say you learn everything about it and know how to dose/cycle it correctly, here is the best case scenario,,,, diarrhea all day everyday you are on it- terrible heartburn for 3 hours after dosing ( so twice a day)- night sweats that soak the bed- horrible insomnia- headaches- muscle cramps -overheating all the time….. torture day and night.

Remember it was used in explosives, pesticides, wood stain…. Must be a hell of a wood stain too because it actually turns your cum yellow. I shit you not! Yellow loads.

Running DNP is a miserable experience.

 

[dick_starbuck]

all of those are great but its most important to remember without calorie deficit your not going to get anything

Read the "appropriate diet" part.

 

[Ghoul]

all of those are great but its most important to remember without calorie deficit your not going to get anything

Visceral fat is significantly reduced even without weight loss using Tesa.

 

[djedo]

Fatty liver disease can really prevent either one, tesamorelin or rhGH, from increasing IGF-I, through which a lot of GH benefits come from, since your liver will tend to be less responsive to GH. If I were you, I’d probably focus on the medically recommended treatments first, but that’s just me!

Just a small update,high dose reta seems to have a huge impact on visceral fat in my case.Lost 2 inches from waist in a 10 day period without much of weight loss,while before i needed to lose 3 to 4 pounds to see 0.5 inch off the waist.Yeah,i think i will hold off on HGH until i get fatty liver sorted.Thanks for the advice.

 

[sionnach]

Just a small update,high dose reta seems to have a huge impact on visceral fat in my case.Lost 2 inches from waist in a 10 day period without much of weight loss,while before i needed to lose 3 to 4 pounds to see 0.5 inch off the waist.Yeah,i think i will hold off on HGH until i get fatty liver sorted.Thanks for the advice.

Retatrutide 'wiped out' fat in liver of obese patients

By A.J. Hostetler More than 85% of obese participants with fatty liver disease in a clinical trial of the experimental drug retatrutide reduced their liver fat to the point where they would no longer be classified as having fatty liver disease, according to the Virginia Commonwealth...

www.vcuhealth.org

But significantly, by week 48, 93% of patients taking the higher dose lost enough liver fat to drop below 5%. This is quite dramatic. Because in obese populations, as much as 75% of the patients would have excess fat in the liver, but now we could have a treatment that allows you to wipe out the liver fat in patients with early-stage liver disease

 

[djedo]

i just checked my fasting blood glucose for the first time in months and it went down from 5.8 to 4.2.In February my A1C was 5.7,im gonna soon get some bloods done to see if there is any changes there.My starting weight in february was 133 kg and now im 95 kg.I think at this rate of progress i will resolve fatty liver in next two months.

 

[djedo]

So another update.Went down to 87 kg.Still on test and reta,started 3iu hgh month ago.First picture is 04/07,second is from 04/08 and last two couple days ago.Plan is to get to about 70 kg and do a clean bulk.Since starting hgh waist size went down 1.5 inches.

 

[assielima]

Thanks for adding the follow up here. Just to confirm, you did not end up using Tesa for any length of time?

 

[djedo]

No,went with hgh.So far,i think i made right choice.

 

[S1L3NC3D]

So I have Stage 2 fatty liver disease and I cannot decide between HGH or Tesamorelin.Currently I'm on 10 mg retatrutide per week and 200 mg test prop. I really wanna focus on losing visceral fat and fatty liver.Does anyone have experience with these compounds?Any advice?

I have NAFLD. Dr told me loose 10% of my bf and clean up my diet. My diet was pretty clean at the time, but not completely.

After doing further research I went with Tesa/Ipa and Reta. I took for 3.5 months tesa 2mg / Ipa 350 a night fasted before bed. I also started on Reta a month later after I dialed in the Tesa first (2 weeks), the the Ipa second. I then started Reta at 2mg for the first 1.5 months then titrated to 4 for a month and am currently at 6mg . I am not running Tesa/Ipa anymore but am still on Reta. ( note: I was already on TRT Test Cyp @ 170mg week)

I have a VeSync Body scale i bought on Amazon to at least get a baseline for my BMI, BodyFat, Subcutaneous Fat, Visceral Fat etc. In this 3.5 months my Visceral Fat went from a 15 , to currently 10. Exellent gauged on the scale is 1-6 ,Standard is 7-11, High is 12-15 , Excess is 16+

I did during this time also completely clean up my diet , increase my cardio days. I am supplementing recently with Milk thistle ,Vitamin E, Tudca, CoQ10 and a Multi.

I hope this helps.