MESO "Specialized" Testing Group Fund

Appreciate it, man. I like it when people are neutral and they don't let biases get in between progress. We don't have to like each other. We just gotta agree that we want better for others.

I mean, I personally don't dislike you or anyone, but you know what I mean?
yes lets focus on the project. i've asked around for some tren raws but im probably gonna end up with 0. can any of yall chip in?
 
yes lets focus on the project. i've asked around for some tren raws but im probably gonna end up with 0. can any of yall chip in?
I almost had an opportunity to acquire some, but unfortunately after he figured out the value of it, he ended up brewing it all...... So I really hope someone generous here has a big stash they're just sitting on and lets us play with it
 
This is MESO. We cant like each other, haha. But we can work together.

I do like @dinfar1337 though. Haven't seen his pics but his brain is beautiful.

jake gyllenhaal GIF
im one of those homies you've known for too long and have 0 pictures with. i am just not photogenic.

i will probably start a cycle log here in the future when i get high enough dosages. wanna do something different than the typical playing safe guys logs
 
im one of those homies you've known for too long and have 0 pictures with. i am just not photogenic.

i will probably start a cycle log here in the future when i get high enough dosages. wanna do something different than the typical playing safe guys logs
Protect your privacy Man. Just playing around.
 
If anyone would rather purify the raws themselves when they're doing before and afters, I will teach you everything if needed. I'll tell you exactly what to buy exactly what to grab. I'll try to make it a budget list that way you're not spending a lot of money like I did on the equipment. But if you need assistance, I will be there to support you. If you need financial support with a vacuum chamber i can support you there too

Just want to make sure someone at the end of this purifies RAWs. And we end the debate lol
 

i typed in the wrong thread

sum up - we have found raws and are looking for if we can buy it.

we need someone trusted in eu which dosent live in (denmark, norway, sweden) to recieve it.

i've asked source if we can get lower moq than 1600 euro(walter says 5g of tren raws is enough instead of 100g)
 
Sign me up for any testing that you guys do in the future. I always want to contribute because I love seeing stuff like this come to life.!!
You wanna contribute when you haven't tested your raws and oils once in your life? Ahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahgahaha!

The audacity!
The irony!
 

i typed in the wrong thread

sum up - we have found raws and are looking for if we can buy it.

we need someone trusted in eu which dosent live in (denmark, norway, sweden) to recieve it.

i've asked source if we can get lower moq than 1600 euro(walter says 5g of tren raws is enough instead of 100g)
Yeah 5 grams is plenty for this purpose. its a small enough investment but high enough sample where you can do 10 tries off it and still be ok.
 
i do. Whenever the funding is needed ill help. thanks.
Why don't you spend those funds to test the gear you sell? You do know that for selling here on meso you need to produce lab tests of all your gear, pictures of your lab, picture of the stock you hold and many more things right? Or you just plan to sling gear in PM with a subscriber tag trying to avoid the rules?

You wanna purify raws when you haven't proved once you are able to do it?

Where is the GCMS on a purified sample of raws to see that there are no residual solvents in it? And that you have successfully increased the purity of the sample? For that one would need a baseline of what was the purity do the sample before as well.

You are a train wreck Walter, you better stay in your little hole of your TG group, because you ain't gonna last long here :)
And not because of us, but simply because you don't have the capacity, money and discipline to source properly here.

Btw I heard you have started again on your old ways of selling shit that you ain't delivering, what do they say? Old habits never die, right?
 
Why don't you spend those funds to test the gear you sell? You do know that for selling here on meso you need to produce lab tests of all your gear, pictures of your lab, picture of the stock you hold and many more things right? Or you just plan to sling gear in PM with a subscriber tag trying to avoid the rules?

You wanna purify raws when you haven't proved once you are able to do it?

Where is the GCMS on a purified sample of raws to see that there are no residual solvents in it? And that you have successfully increased the purity of the sample? For that one would need a baseline of what was the purity do the sample before as well.

You are a train wreck Walter, you better stay in your little hole of your TG group, because you ain't gonna last long here :)
And not because of us, but simply because you don't have the capacity, money and discipline to source properly here.

Btw I heard you have started again on your old ways of selling shit that you ain't delivering, what do they say? Old habits never die, right?
It's funny you mention it. I have blind testing being produced by my group.

Thanks for noticing. You should join my telegram sometime. That way you have factual information.

I will last very long here because I have all the intention to be the best in an actual sense. Stay tuned. Testing. Coming. You have zero clue what i have been cooking up behind the scenes.

And no, there is no scams or not being delivered, being pulled at all. hearsay doesn't fly. If you can't provide proof, please don't state anything. I'm sure you get that words don't mean much. including mine. Same thing goes for you.

Oh, and believe me, I'm more than willing to show my entire setup as I do constantly in my telegram group, just for your information, and I'm probably the only one who openly posts it without going through weird routes of hiding it through emails or other obscure layers.

I have a laminar flow hood that I constantly show off and I fucking love it

Best build I ever did

My glass filtration system is infallible the best possible setup that's one could have if you care about speed, efficiently and sterility.

My process is on point and I have every single aspect dialed in in terms of making sure my gear or whatever I have on me is clear and always doesn't have floaters.

There's a reason I'm growing in popularity even without the help of this forum.

And I don't even have to try. People just come to me by reputation.

What you say of me on here does not affect my reputation in any shape way or form because people actually think for themselves. I hope you know and they don't just follow the sheep.

Btw selfie for meso. No tits sorry. Maybe next time.
 
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It's funny you mention it. I have blind testing being produced by my group.

Thanks for noticing. You should join my telegram sometime. That way you have factual information.

I will last very long here because I have all the intention to be the best in an actual sense. Stay tuned. Testing. Coming. You have zero clue what i have been cooking up behind the scenes.

And no, there is no scams or not being delivered, being pulled at all. hearsay doesn't fly. If you can't provide proof, please don't state anything. I'm sure you get that words don't mean much. including mine. Same thing goes for you.

Oh, and believe me, I'm more than willing to show my entire setup as I do constantly in my telegram group, just for your information, and I'm probably the only one who openly posts it without going through weird routes of hiding it through emails or other obscure layers.

I have a laminar flow hood that I constantly show off and I fucking love it

Best build I ever did

My glass filtration system is infallible the best possible setup that's one could have if you care about speed, efficiently and sterility.

My process is on point and I have every single aspect dialed in in terms of making sure my gear or whatever I have on me is clear and always doesn't have floaters.

There's a reason I'm growing in popularity even without the help of this forum.

And I don't even have to try. People just come to me by reputation.

What you say of me on here does not affect my reputation in any shape way or form because people actually think for themselves. I hope you know and they don't just follow the sheep.
Do I need to start posting screenshot? You sure?


Blind test from your followers means nothing.

You need to provide yourself lab test of your whole lineup after that you need to hope that some members that have at least some weight will be so nice to order from you and do blind test.



The dumb wits from your group with 0 posts that registered yesterday and can't differentiate their left hand from their right have the value of 0 multiplied by 0.



I was in your TG, you banned me after I asked your uncomfortable questions about your brewing techniques, your statements and other stuff.



Upsie

Your glass filtration that you were surprised it couldn't filter high quantity of oil with PES membranes, because you know solvents hello?? Man you sure you wanna do this?
 
Do I need to start posting screenshot? You sure?


Blind test from your followers means nothing.

You need to provide yourself lab test of your whole lineup after that you need to hope that some members that have at least some weight will be so nice to order from you and do blind test.



The dumb wits from your group with 0 posts that registered yesterday and can't differentiate their left hand from their right have the value of 0 multiplied by 0.



I was in your TG, you banned me after I asked your uncomfortable questions about your brewing techniques, your statements and other stuff.



Upsie
You know what, you're right. You did ask questions. I just don't like that you act like a bad actor.

I know you're wanting to ask me questions to give me a hard time like most do on this sort form, but when you go to my space and start acting that way, that's an entirely different process.

I would prefer you to be more readalot. Ya know... Netural.... Actually open to interpretation and discussion.... Not.... Judging and dismissive? I always match people's energy.

Like I said, and I always say for everything in life shit in shit out

I mean, I'm opening the answer any question and I'm trust me. I could spend hours and hours yapping and voice chat about what I do and showing you with videos. I don't care. I love talking about this stuff.

But I need to know your intentions first of all, that matters.

Read a lot's attention is actually pretty morally grounded, and I love that. That's what I like about him. I share a very similar aspect of that soul of his

The ever-lasting need to find the truth....... But I'm never going to be mean and absolutely dismissive and treat people like shit.

Like some of you guys have done to me.

I care about a lot of people here. I know that sounds hard to believe.

But I actually do and I take great pride in caring about people and actually caring about what they feel. If you feel like I'm not answering your questions, then just say that. But don't be mean about it.

Just present it like you would want to be presented at. Treat me as if you wanted to be treated back.


I have no ill intent. I'm not here to take over everyone's piece of the pie or push everyone out to the side or hurt people's feelings or fuck people over or steal hard-earned money. I just like brewing. I literally never leave my house. I literally wake up, shower, get into my clean room that I spent $600 on building, making sure that it never has outside air in my room containing it and I never leave it. It actually is kind of unhealthy for my mental health. But it's what it takes to be the best. I am obsessed with this. I have done nothing but do everything I possibly can to refine my process, including cleaning. And I know that sounds like a small aspect of this entire ordeal.


But the small things matter as you know..... Not just the testing.


I mean crap, I was called a bubble boy because I care about endotoxin..... And then I call crazy for trying to endotoxin heat sterilize my glass before I autoclave


Still doesn't stop me from doing it. ..... It's kind of a religion for me at this point. I get into this lull of just doing the same thing over and over and it's like I'm praying but for brewing I guess I don't know.

And I get it. You want proof of my process to re-crystallization. Go check my other thread. I have a little project I'm going to be doing. I don't know if it's going to work, but it's the perfect opportunity here because these Raws are legitimately trash.

Let me link it. You can follow there and ill update yes. I will jano test before. After and finished oil.
 
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Your glass filtration that you were surprised it couldn't filter high quantity of oil with PES membranes, because you know solvents hello?? Man you sure you wanna do this?
you're talking about an old system, which was bottle top filters, not my glass filtration system.
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I understand that you're misunderstanding me, but you're referring to bottle top filters which I have trashed and moved on to a glass filtration system using EPTFE filters that I can proudly display here.


I have bought 10 packs of these of 25 each. These things will last me literally last me for years. They're strong, they're stronger than normal PTFE, and they're extremely resistant. I've yet to have a single one break and I've abused them heavily. It is absolutely the way to go if you care about efficiency and cost while also having very good filtration speed. I'll make a write up on my personal glass filtration system and help others copy me because I personally believe that my customized custom machine setup is the way to go.

And it literally will not take a lot of modifications to achieve what I've done. I can literally glass filter with a funnel straight into media bottles that are pre-sterilized, open straight into a laminar flow hood, keeping the entire chain of process sterilized. No tricks, no funny business, no little shortcut.

I have yet to find a better system and the reason I know of this system is I was taught this by a very well Smart OG. I love the dude. Hes retiring and taught me everything i do now.

Nothing I'm using in terms of my filter system is commercially bought. I had to modify it. Had to make it work. Because there's not many options out there that allow you to filter straight into a media bottle that isn't disposable.

And when it comes about cost, I try to keep my disposables at a minimum. Let's not forget sourcing bottle top fiilters of sufficient quality is becoming harder and harder. But sourcing filter paper is easy...I don't have to rely on any chain of command or out of stock bottle top filters. I always have what I need.

Yes, I do sterilize the filters and I have a process for that too. An autoclave is absolutely needed or pressure canner that reaches 15psi.
 
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Do I need to start posting screenshot? You sure?


Blind test from your followers means nothing.

You need to provide yourself lab test of your whole lineup after that you need to hope that some members that have at least some weight will be so nice to order from you and do blind test.



The dumb wits from your group with 0 posts that registered yesterday and can't differentiate their left hand from their right have the value of 0 multiplied by 0.



I was in your TG, you banned me after I asked your uncomfortable questions about your brewing techniques, your statements and other stuff.



Upsie

Your glass filtration that you were surprised it couldn't filter high quantity of oil with PES membranes, because you know solvents hello?? Man you sure you wanna do this?
I was also in his TG for an about 5 mins and banned me too for calling him out. I can’t believe some ppl wanted this guy back here lol

He def has a rep of not following thru on ordered product, zero testing done on his own. Please read that again !!!

But because he types big words and sounds smart let’s bring him back to discuss the new trend of the week, “DARK TREN”

I can’t, I just can’t …. Wow
 
I was also in his TG for an about 5 mins and banned me too for calling him out. I can’t believe some ppl wanted this guy back here lol

He def has a rep of not following thru on ordered product, zero testing done on his own. Please read that again !!!

But because he types big words and sounds smart let’s bring him back to discuss the new trend of the week, “DARK TREN”

I can’t, I just can’t …. Wow
Where, again, is this proof that I don't send my products. I have fixed every single issue. There's not a single person right now that has not received a product for me and paid for it.

So again, please tell me where this proof is. Don't be shy.

I'm waiting
 
I was also in his TG for an about 5 mins and banned me too for calling him out. I can’t believe some ppl wanted this guy back here lol

He def has a rep of not following thru on ordered product, zero testing done on his own. Please read that again !!!

But because he types big words and sounds smart let’s bring him back to discuss the new trend of the week, “DARK TREN”

I can’t, I just can’t …. Wow
No one is banned on my telegram.

You might get kicked for being a dick, but you're always welcome back.
 
you're talking about an old system, which was bottle top filters, not my glass filtration system.
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I understand that you're misunderstanding me, but you're referring to bottle top filters which I have trashed and moved on to a glass filtration system using EPTFE filters that I can proudly display here.


I have bought 10 packs of these of 25 each. These things will last me literally last me for years. They're strong, they're stronger than normal PTFE, and they're extremely resistant. I've yet to have a single one break and I've abused them heavily. It is absolutely the way to go if you care about efficiency and cost while also having very good filtration speed. I'll make a write up on my personal glass filtration system and help others copy me because I personally believe that my customized custom machine setup is the way to go.

And it literally will not take a lot of modifications to achieve what I've done. I can literally glass filter with a funnel straight into media bottles that are pre-sterilized, open straight into a laminar flow hood, keeping the entire chain of process sterilized. No tricks, no funny business, no little shortcut.

I have yet to find a better system and the reason I know of this system is I was taught this by a very well Smart OG. I love the dude. Hes retiring and taught me everything i do now.

Nothing I'm using in terms of my filter system is commercially bought. I had to modify it. Had to make it work. Because there's not many options out there that allow you to filter straight into a media bottle that isn't disposable.

And when it comes about cost, I try to keep my disposables at a minimum. Let's not forget sourcing bottle top fiilters of sufficient quality is becoming harder and harder. But sourcing filter paper is easy...I don't have to rely on any chain of command or out of stock bottle top filters. I always have what I need.

Yes, I do sterilize the filters and I have a process for that too. An autoclave is absolutely needed or pressure canner that reaches 15psi.
Look at you …. Trying to source but saying you’re not trying to source.

HE HASNT GOT A SINGLE VIAL TESTED OR A RAW PPL

HES ASKING FOR A GO FUND ME FROM HIS TELEGRAM MEMBERS TO PAY FOR THEM

WAKE THE F$&K UP MESO
 
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