High Hematocrit/RBC help

[newguy2]

Cross Post from SST looking for advice.

Just got 6 week bloods on 400mg test. Disappointed to see hematocrit and RBC pretty high. Going to try and give blood Monday morning.

I drank 2L of water before the test and drink 5L daily. 3 HIIT sessions a week. Weight is 175 pounds.

Here are the supps I'm taking. Should I adjust the doses here. Not sure the normal dose of IP6.

Nattokinase 6000 fu
IP6 500mg
Citrus Bergamot 1200mg
Krill oil 2g

 

[Photon]

Cross Post from SST looking for advice.

Just got 6 week bloods on 400mg test. Disappointed to see hematocrit and RBC pretty high. Going to try and give blood Monday morning.

I drank 2L of water before the test and drink 5L daily. 3 HIIT sessions a week. Weight is 175 pounds.

Here are the supps I'm taking. Should I adjust the doses here. Not sure the normal dose of IP6.

Nattokinase 6000 fu
IP6 500mg
Citrus Bergamot 1200mg
Krill oil 2g

Do you have iron and ferritin?

 

[readalot]

I do 10k FU natto daily. Plasma viscosity. Fibrinogen.

Long term you will have to lower your dose to address RBC generation term.

 

[dinfar1337]

Cross Post from SST looking for advice.

Just got 6 week bloods on 400mg test. Disappointed to see hematocrit and RBC pretty high. Going to try and give blood Monday morning.

I drank 2L of water before the test and drink 5L daily. 3 HIIT sessions a week. Weight is 175 pounds.

Here are the supps I'm taking. Should I adjust the doses here. Not sure the normal dose of IP6.

Nattokinase 6000 fu
IP6 500mg
Citrus Bergamot 1200mg
Krill oil 2g

what are your iron/ferritin levels?

also i would say fuck hitt and add cardio atleast 30 mins everyday.

make sure to not only focus on hydrating x liter a day but also get your electrolytes in.

you can run aspirin, l-arginine and you already 4 other stuff to reduce clotting risks.


i would say the only time you donate blood is when hematocrit is so bad you can feel yourself having trouble breathing, your bp/heart rate is out of control.

it should be a last resort and you should check your iron/ferritin levels if you can survive it because a double red donation cant just be given here and there and then you think you can raise your iron easily again.

 

[newguy2]

what are your iron/ferritin levels?

also i would say fuck hitt and add cardio atleast 30 mins everyday.

make sure to not only focus on hydrating x liter a day but also get your electrolytes in.

you can run aspirin, l-arginine and you already 4 other stuff to reduce clotting risks.


i would say the only time you donate blood is when hematocrit is so bad you can feel yourself having trouble breathing, your bp/heart rate is out of control.

it should be a last resort and you should check your iron/ferritin levels if you can survive it because a double red donation cant just be given here and there and then you think you can raise your iron easily again.

I don't have iron or ferritin numbers. By HIIT I mean intense cardio. Not just casual start state. Heart beat above 150.

I'm pretty 56 is usually time to dump blood? Don't really want to just wait until I feel terrible.

 

[newguy2]

Do you have iron and ferritin?

I don't.

 

[newguy2]

I do 10k FU natto daily. Plasma viscosity. Fibrinogen.

Long term you will have to lower your dose to address RBC generation term.

Yeah I plan on upping from 6k to 10k.

 

[dinfar1337]

I don't have iron or ferritin numbers. By HIIT I mean intense cardio. Not just casual start state. Heart beat above 150.

I'm pretty 56 is usually time to dump blood? Don't really want to just wait until I feel terrible.

both the cause, of high hematocrit and fix(donating blood) needs iron and ferritin.

 

[BamaCrazy]

I am in a similar situation. My Hematocrit is 54.9 and RBC is 5.97. Hemoglobin is normal. I donated blood on 7/1 so my ferritin is low (iron is normal).

BP is fine. I am taking most of the above. 8k Natto, Krill, Arginine and IP6. Staying very hydrated. Gonna ride this out for a few more weeks and redo labs. I might have been a little dehydrated on my last labs.

 

[newguy2]

I am in a similar situation. My Hematocrit is 54.9 and RBC is 5.97. Hemoglobin is normal. I donated blood on 7/1 so my ferritin is low (iron is normal).

BP is fine. I am taking most of the above. 8k Natto, Krill, Arginine and IP6. Staying very hydrated. Gonna ride this out for a few more weeks and redo labs. I might have been a little dehydrated on my last labs.

I'm hoping this lab is a fluke but not counting on it. I'm going to up the nat and IP6. But I know the IP6 can reduce iron/cause anemia. So need to watch that with the blood donation Monday.

My BP is great hasn't been an issue. Bummer cause I was wanting to up the AAS dose this week.

 

[readalot]

I'm hoping this lab is a fluke but not counting on it

Then recheck.

 

[readalot]

Cross Post from SST looking for advice

https://steroidsourcetalk.cc/index.php?threads/high-hematocrit-on-recent-bloods.26329/post-236375

 

[newguy2]

I just realized I've also been running TNE at 50 mg pwo 4-5 days a week. I wonder if the hormone spike is causing issues.

Cutting that out.

 

[readalot]

I just realized I've also been running TNE at 50 mg pwo 4-5 days a week. I wonder if the hormone spike is causing issues.

Cutting that out.

On top of the 400?

 

[newguy2]

On top of the 400?

Yes the 400 is cyp. It's in and out so quick. I didn't even consider it's potential effect on blood thickening.

 

[readalot]

Yes the 400 is cyp. It's in and out so quick. I didn't even consider it's potential effect on blood thickening.

Your peak TT/FT levels are up there 4 to 5 times per week. BIG PULSES.

 

[readalot]

I didn't even consider it's potential effect on blood thickening.

...on Hgb/Hct

Blood thickening set by Hct plus plasma viscosity.

Always try to keep cRP down along with other inflammatory markers.

 

[newguy2]

Your peak TT/FT levels are up there 4 to 5 times per week. BIG PULSES.

Yeah I'm actually encouraged by that lol. Hopefully it's a contributing factor that I can easily eliminate.

 

[readalot]

Plasma viscosity: a forgotten variable - PubMed

Evaluation of plasma viscosity has been underutilized in the clinical practice. Plasma viscosity is determined by water-content and macromolecular components. Plasma is a highly concentrated protein solution, therefore weak protein-protein interactions can play a role that is not characterized...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[roofer22]

I do 10k FU natto daily. Plasma viscosity. Fibrinogen.

Long term you will have to lower your dose to address RBC generation term.

Do you take this all at once on a empty stomach? I'm way behind, I only take 2000 but my H is only 50.6%. Higher than I want but not horrible considering.