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Medi = EO + BB
Global = EO + BB
Akra = BB
In general all are very good tolerated by most people. Only few have PIP from the carriers.
Did you check with the lab and they said they used only bb?
If so that would be great, hate EO
I really dont understand why so many people have problems with EO, i mean if its used only, sure. Thats not good.
Personally i stick with Medi because i had acne problems at my back with other brands and the acne disappeared.
I will ask dark for more details. Hes sending the tests for the badges. But hes isnt reachable for days now.
ovrdooze
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Do you ship to hungary?
I tried to order but can’t select it from the country drop down list at checkout
I tried to order but can’t select it from the country drop down list at checkout
Hello, yes we do. That has to be a mistake, i will directly fix it. You can order in 5 Minutes!
It's done. If you order now, you get a coupon at the cart or checkout, based on your ordervalue.
Most of you will not experience any error, just in case you do:
It can be buggy, i will fix it in future, but for now, just go to cart if you have not the right value and change product number +1, then -1 and refresh the chart, the correct value should be displayed.
Error only appears, when you had already 500 for example and then increase to 1000 for example, he keeps the old value, until you refresh the chart.
It will not work with Coupons over 10% - for obvious reasons and should it work somehow, i will and have to remove the coupon. Because coupons are now meant for orders under 500€
I hope this will make the shopping experience much nicer, since the border between little orders, bigger orders and reseller orders is now fluid. You get the price you deserve, the more you order, the more you save.
Enjoy!
Photon
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People want to know what they're injecting into their bodies.
It's also a way to determine authenticity.
For e,g if a vendor say they don't use EO but a product gets sent to Jano and it tests positive for EO, then they may have received fake products and should get a refund. Jano can do testing for prescence of solvents such as EO, BB, BA and more.
EO also has a much shorter shelf life, if i'm stocking up, i'd avoid EO and GSO too.
You are completly right, i agree. I have fresh labtests uploaded. Feel free to check them.
And please dont get me wrong. EO as single Carrier is surely problematic, but in combination with BB like Medi uses it, its perfectly fine. I personally run at 750mg Testo C per week before the next circle, 0 pimples, no acne, no problematic results in my bloodtests.
The very most people get 0 PIP from EO + BB, which is because of the combination of these too. Its widely tolerated by the very most of users, in contrast to many other carrier oils. I personally as a vendor, who had a lot of brands in stock and problems with a lot of brands before (pimples, PIP, problematic bloodtests), are feeling now very good with it.
I know some say it causes hidden inflammation, but so does salami because of the curing salt - to exaggerate this a bit. Also in general steroids tend to cause inflammation, not only because of carrier oils.
But since i create my own brand at the moment and we still discuss the perfect carrier substance - that has to be able to carry up to 400 or 450mg of active substance, without PIP - i would love to hear your opinion on the perfect carrier oil. Since opinions couldnt go further apart from each other!
Photon
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Just to add to your point, i have no issues with EO, as per bloodwork.
But at the end of the day, if I'm injecting, I'd like to know what i am injecting.
For carrier oil, my favorite is Miglyol 840, extremely thin, longest shelf life. However similar to EO, some people may have adverse reactions to it. The most popular here is just MCT, which is probably what I'd recommend, simply because popular = more sales.
I would avoid use of EO.
If you use EO, people here will just assume you're reselling chinese oils.
PIPwise, I think it depends more on the substance than the oil.
E.g BU600 and Test D 550 has zero PIP regardless of oil.
Test E/C 400? Yea that's going to PIP for sure.
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dinfar1337
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100% more sales in mct. although i like eo and miglyol more
Just keep in Mind, that Medi doesnt use only EO, but EO + BB. Its still a difference, especially regarding concentration. Theres good reason to choose it, especially in prestacks with 400mg of active substance, since its pretty thin and highly solvable.
MCT is a good choice and we discussed it already, because its highly tolerable, pretty thin and in general a good carrier - however we want to produce a hardcore line, with products like Testo E with 400 or 450mg, prestacks with 450mg and stuff like this and MCT is known to result in crystallization with many active substances in this concentration.
And regarding PIP, its surely also the product, but many products like Testo E for simplicity, that are not known for PIP, could result in PIP in high concentration, with the wrong carrier oil. For example Massmed 400 by Medi, has 400mg active substance and i had 0 PIP using it for 2 months. I tried other compounts with 300mg and had PIP. Surely not because of the concentration, but the carrier oil.
Its a complex topic and by no means, im experienced or informed enough, to make any decision regarding a production line of 100.000 products. Luckily my brand will be produced and co founded by a known lab, which products i sell at the moment. So theres people open for opinions, but with fundamental knowledge.
But thanks for the Info about Miglyol 840 - i didnt now it, but im a Vendor and Wholesaler, not a Labowner or Producer. I will forward it as option for my brand and lets see, what the professionals say about this.
I hear this so often. I know MCT is super. But with MCT we will not have Testo E 400mg. And i dont want to have a different carrier for every product line. Maybe its an option to have MCT for normal products and another compound for the Hardcore Line, with stuff around 350-450mg concentration.
And yes - you get your proof with the lab and your name on it, i will report you if you dont put it as your profile picture amigo
Photon
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I hear this so often. I know MCT is super. But with MCT we will not have Testo E 400mg.
There's a US vendor called Primal here selling Test E 500, 32% BB.
Tren E 400, 30% BB.
Impressive, i think Test E 500 might a bit over the top (especially because of PIP), but 400 or 450 is something we want to have as brand.
I think it looks already glorious and as a 750mg Testo C / week enjoyer, i really look forward to take my own brand and explode in the gym. For me less needles/injections is a big thing and im not alone with that - got already tons of people who cant wait for the hardcore line. I never will understand people who inject daily, no matter the results.
@dinfar1337 i got a new PFP for your collection, what you think?
dinfar1337
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is that matte black? i love that color but i personally dont like the 1000 different colors on the text.
do only white text to make it more profesional
if you're going more ugl style than profesional, add a skull reaper with flames as a little logo besides it.
get a brand name aswell "schnell pharma" or "blitz pharma"
Yes, matte black. Strong colors, minimalist design.
We might do it all in white only because with different colors of different ingredients like Testo + Primo it would look weird.
But for now i like it. I also will do the design myself. Dont you worry, there will be no skulls and i want a clean, modern, minimalist, industrial style. Its all in the making still and i like to show different variations and consider the feedback i get. Since we have atleast 1-2 months until packaging will be produced, i try to refine the design as much as possible. Also with opinions from here and ExBB.
So your opinion is highly appreciated! Aswell as any other feedback. Come on guys, tell me what you like and what not!!!
What i surely want, that the letters are shortened, like Testo E is TE and mixes like Testo E and Primo E are TEPE, with TE in Blue and PE in Yellow - the main reason the font under ist will mostlikely to be only white, without the amount in the product color.
Also product description will be a QR code, to a super stylish website, where all infos are well sorted and displayed. And the cartons will be no cartons, but a transparent package. Pretty sure this will stand out and some of it is already decided. So the product design itself will stand out more. Minimalism is the future.
The name is still open, since i will be not the only one whos selling it, it will not be Blitz Pharma, even if i would love it. But i promise that the name will be something that stands out and our ideas are already leading to a good way. It will be simple, clear, bold.
And the most important thing: The products will be of highest quality and prices will be competitive.
You lose yourself in details. People don't care about label, name,qr code,if it's blue or yellow the label and neither what oil you use. Just deliver cheap product dosed correctly and people will buy. China is a living proof. Those guy beat everyone with prices and the products lack design or even filtering quality but hell yeah they sell very well because it's cheap at 7$ a vial now 10$ compared with 30€ more or less
You can make a vial of test under 5€ taking in consideration everything. Selling for 15€ it's 10€ profit for 1 vial and many people would rather buy domestic than go China route as there is a custom risk,transport higher cost. Most of the bodybuilders are broke and barely have money for syringe so they buy few vials here and there so China became a alternative rather than a principal source taking in consideration frequency of the order they must do.
But whatever it's your business
You can make a vial of test under 5€ taking in consideration everything. Selling for 15€ it's 10€ profit for 1 vial and many people would rather buy domestic than go China route as there is a custom risk,transport higher cost. Most of the bodybuilders are broke and barely have money for syringe so they buy few vials here and there so China became a alternative rather than a principal source taking in consideration frequency of the order they must do.
But whatever it's your business
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