May be the end of the line on gear for me. Having LUTS saw the urologist and he said my prostate is enormous.

People will laugh but I just dip a wet finger in and take a little that way. Been doing so for a long, long time.

That's crazy, I never heard about this before.

Test-U is unique because it doesn't get processed by the liver, and is used commercially now for "oral TRT".

Wild, thanks for mentioning this! It really can be used for a short term boost.

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I could definitely see this as a very easy, cheap way for men to try TRT, and once they get hooked on the positive effects. eventually, like all hardcore addictions, move on to the needle, lol.


Looks like it's cheap as hell from India Pharma IMG_2217.webp
 
That's crazy, I never heard about this before.

Test-U is unique because it doesn't get processed by the liver, and is used commercially now for "oral TRT".

Wild, thanks for mentioning this! It really can be used for a short term boost.

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Yes, it works great for me. I am much older and don't always need high test 24/7. I have health conditions probably in part due to the massive amounts I took when competing. I do my shot on Sunday but have date night Saturday (date night means sex). The 8-10 hour boost from the TU is perfect for that purpose.

TU is only 7% bioavailable so you need a solid bit of it.

I take Sunday off from training so my Sunday night shot kicks in for Mon training.

Before the raws shortage TU powder was cheap and available (unlike Andriol).
 
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I could definitely see this as a very easy, cheap way for men to try TRT, and once they get hooked on the positive effects. eventually, like all hardcore addictions, move on to the needle, lol.


Looks like it's cheap as hell from India Pharma View attachment 341619
Healing Pharma, good products,,
 
Yes, it works great for me. I am much older and don't always need high test 24/7. I have health conditions probably in part due to the massive amounts I took when competing. I do my shot on Sunday but have date night Saturday (date night means sex). The 8-10 hour boost from the TU is perfect for that purpose.

TU is only 7% bioavailable so you need a solid bit of it.

I take Sunday off from training so my Sunday night shot kicks in for Mon training.

Before the raws shortage TU powder was cheap and available (unlike Andriol).

I've seen it before but i stay away because of the low absorption rate. What dose do you take? I did consider it as a PWO but it's too much a waste with that bioavability.
 
how would test u be a good pre workout?

It doesn't have the same half life as your injectables which is why you need to dose 2x a day.

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JATENZO comes in a variety dosing options, all taken twice daily. This lets your doctor give you the precise dose you need.

 
IndiaPharma doses are too low tho, in the US you can get it at 237mg.
IndiaPharma is usually at 40mg. Abbott sells it, but there's Healing Pharma which was mentioned by @Ghoul as well.
 
I've seen it before but i stay away because of the low absorption rate. What dose do you take? I did consider it as a PWO but it's too much a waste with that bioavability.


Correct. It is not something I would recommend for someone younger who can run 400 mgs of test/week with no concerns (as I did for many years). I don't want to give too much info on a publicly accessed steroid forum (call me paranoid) but I am much, much older than most here. I would not recommend my routine for a younger guy but for those over 55 w/ say heart and prostate conditions who want to be as careful w/ their health as possible it is a good option.

Of course also the current unavailability of test u raws is a factor.
 
So I have the video urodynamics test later next month and saw the men's health uro in the practice this week who trained with Dr. Lipshultz.

Basically he's Dr. Rand McClain. Starts once weekly shots at either 100mg or 200mg based on body mass. He was fine with me injection daily or basically doing whatever I want to do (I've been on TRT 5 years). He said to see him once a year.

Doesn't care what your TRT number level is. Cares about symptom resolution. Told him my last uro was so squirrelly about the total number and told him I would play this dance and lower the dose when I went to see him so that my bloods showed 700-800.

He said even though I have severe LUTS pointing to BPH as the cause, to not stop TRT and said my best bet is pelvic floor therapy believe it or not. I even tried to talk him into coming off and prescribing SERM therapy for me and he was against that.

He said if pelvic floor therapy doesn't work and the cause is 100 percent confirmed BPH from the urodynamics test and I'm faced with surgery as a decision, then he'd be for one last ditch effort of coming off TRT but said not to muddy the waters for now. He did say that testosterone therapy probably accelerated my BPH is his opinion but stopping wouldn't shrink it (again in his opinion).
 
So I have the video urodynamics test later next month and saw the men's health uro in the practice this week who trained with Dr. Lipshultz.

Basically he's Dr. Rand McClain. Starts once weekly shots at either 100mg or 200mg based on body mass. He was fine with me injection daily or basically doing whatever I want to do (I've been on TRT 5 years). He said to see him once a year.

Doesn't care what your TRT number level is. Cares about symptom resolution. Told him my last uro was so squirrelly about the total number and told him I would play this dance and lower the dose when I went to see him so that my bloods showed 700-800.

He said even though I have severe LUTS pointing to BPH as the cause, to not stop TRT and said my best bet is pelvic floor therapy believe it or not. I even tried to talk him into coming off and prescribing SERM therapy for me and he was against that.

He said if pelvic floor therapy doesn't work and the cause is 100 percent confirmed BPH from the urodynamics test and I'm faced with surgery as a decision, then he'd be for one last ditch effort of coming off TRT but said not to muddy the waters for now. He did say that testosterone therapy probably accelerated my BPH is his opinion but stopping wouldn't shrink it (again in his opinion).
Lipshultz is a pretty big supporter of TRT, he has lots of patients taking more than 200 mg/week. He even stopped testing my total test, although I have to keep reminding him to test for it.

He is world famous, but wanted to do a radical TURP surgery on me. Another doc instead put me on Finasteride which greatly helped my situation.
 
So I have the video urodynamics test later next month and saw the men's health uro in the practice this week who trained with Dr. Lipshultz.

Basically he's Dr. Rand McClain. Starts once weekly shots at either 100mg or 200mg based on body mass. He was fine with me injection daily or basically doing whatever I want to do (I've been on TRT 5 years). He said to see him once a year.

Doesn't care what your TRT number level is. Cares about symptom resolution. Told him my last uro was so squirrelly about the total number and told him I would play this dance and lower the dose when I went to see him so that my bloods showed 700-800.

He said even though I have severe LUTS pointing to BPH as the cause, to not stop TRT and said my best bet is pelvic floor therapy believe it or not. I even tried to talk him into coming off and prescribing SERM therapy for me and he was against that.

He said if pelvic floor therapy doesn't work and the cause is 100 percent confirmed BPH from the urodynamics test and I'm faced with surgery as a decision, then he'd be for one last ditch effort of coming off TRT but said not to muddy the waters for now. He did say that testosterone therapy probably accelerated my BPH is his opinion but stopping wouldn't shrink it (again in his opinion).
Pulling for you Brother. Totally fucked myself on lower dose GH plus mast and tren blast last spring. Really woke up the beast. Thanks for your thread.
 
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