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[Ghoul]

Realistically - at what dose does this become an issue. Are we talking 10iu+ daily? As low as 5? 3?

All we know is it doesn't appear to happen in people with IGF under 1.5x the upper limit of normal for their age, and that even with IGF above that it takes a long time. At least a couple of years at 2x upper limit of normal (ULN) for the first signs to appear, but they're so subtle, most people who develop acromegaly as an adult don't realize something is going on for 5+ years.

That's probably why some of the known/suspected celebrity rHGH users who appear to have gotten some of these effects didn't catch it until it was too late.

This is going to become more common in years to come now that rHGH is affordable enough for many to use high doses indefinitely. Not something that was common at $10/iu.

 

[TheDieselZ]

All we know is it doesn't appear to happen in people with IGF under 1.5x the upper limit of normal for their age, and that even with IGF above that it takes a long time. At least a couple of years at 2x upper limit of normal (ULN) for the first signs to appear, but they're so subtle, most people who develop acromegaly as an adult don't realize something is going on for 5+ years.

That's probably why some of the known/suspected celebrity rHGH users who appear to have gotten some of these effects didn't catch it until it was too late.

This is going to become more common in years to come now that rHGH is affordable enough for many to use high doses indefinitely. Not something that was common at $10/iu.

For the average user, do you think 3.3iu daily ongoing would be low enough to avoid any meaningful severity with the sides as you listed?

 

[Ghoul]

For the average user, do you think 3.3iu daily ongoing would be low enough to avoid any meaningful severity with the sides as you listed?

It's IGF dependent. So if you're a high IGF converter, at 700 and 40 years old. you're probably at risk of it happening after a few years of those levels.

If you're 30 and IGF 400 you're probobly fine indefinitely, or many years at least.

 

[CharlesV]

let’s not forget The Great Kali, an interesting study of Acromegaly and sustained Gh use. i suspect it was more than 3.3iu on the latter.

 

[Ghoul]

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let’s not forget The Great Kali, an interesting study of Acromegaly and sustained Gh use. i suspect it was more than 3.3iu on the latter.

"You already have acromegaly man! 10iu isn't even a replacement dose!"

 

[BP_6]

Finally got around to using the lobsters tirz vs another brand. Holy Fing hell I don't know, but it seems a lot more potent. Same dose as I was taking before absolutely hit my appetite like a nuke. To the point where you get that flu like feeling and lethargy that happens if you up the dose too high.

Note, not saying this is a bad thing. However I am absolutely convinced this is considerably stronger. I was at 12.5mg but I am going to drop it to 10 on this lobster Tirz as the supression and feeling is too strong.

Anyone else ever experienced this when switching brands? Just curious. I now understand the shitty feeling that I have heard about if you take too much of any GLP-1 and how potent the appetite supression can be.

 

[Photon]

Finally got around to using the lobsters tirz vs another brand. Holy Fing hell I don't know, but it seems a lot more potent. Same dose as I was taking before absolutely hit my appetite like a nuke. To the point where you get that flu like feeling and lethargy that happens if you up the dose too high.

Note, not saying this is a bad thing. However I am absolutely convinced this is considerably stronger. I was at 12.5mg but I am going to drop it to 10 on this lobster Tirz as the supression and feeling is too strong.

Anyone else ever experienced this when switching brands? Just curious. I now understand the shitty feeling that I have heard about if you take too much of any GLP-1 and how potent the appetite supression can be.

What brand did you switch from?
Check the Jano testing.
GLP's are usually overdosed, some 5% some do 15%.

 

[Ghoul]

Finally got around to using the lobsters tirz vs another brand. Holy Fing hell I don't know, but it seems a lot more potent. Same dose as I was taking before absolutely hit my appetite like a nuke. To the point where you get that flu like feeling and lethargy that happens if you up the dose too high.

Note, not saying this is a bad thing. However I am absolutely convinced this is considerably stronger. I was at 12.5mg but I am going to drop it to 10 on this lobster Tirz as the supression and feeling is too strong.

Anyone else ever experienced this when switching brands? Just curious. I now understand the shitty feeling that I have heard about if you take too much of any GLP-1 and how potent the appetite supression can be.

There's more to certain peptides than is apparent on HPLC purity testing.

 

[BP_6]

What brand did you switch from?
Check the Jano testing.
GLP's are usually overdosed, some 5% some do 15%.

A supplier that is not Directly on this board with a good rep. Their tirz worked, but I have zero doubt for the same amount lobsters is much more potent for at least the batches I tried. Have some SA too that I haven't tried as well. So it will be interesting to see how it turns out when I get around to those. When I saw people and the effects they described when they took too much, "mild to moderate nausea, lethargy, flu like feeling, completely nuked appetite, I though to myself before, well it for sure keeps my appetite down, but it is not all that extreme as being described. Like I said, I now understand what they were talking about and why dose titration is so important and be aware when you switch brands.

Only got a kit of the lobs to hold me over as I wasn't sure how fast the other would arrive so it was kind of an extra. However if it remains this potent, 10mg would be more than enough until I get more tolerant. The lob brand also dissolved quicker than the previous with the same water.

So like Ghoul stated, there appears to be other factors involved vs just the amount stated in the vial.

 

[Lovegod82]

a la Ronnie Coleman famously saying that his BF% was .33% while competing. love Big Ron, but he evidently bumped his head if he really thinks we believe that.

and even the remote chance that shit it true (which it’s not), those guys are hyper-responders and the absolute top of the genetic heap.

this guy did the responsible thing and wasted 2 years running 2 and 3 ius. i had little to show for it except money lost and some minimal anti aging effects. it wasn’t until i bumped up above 5iu did I realize what growth could do.

at least the culture is such today that these guys can even cop to using gear. even 10 years ago you wouldn’t really hear about gear from the top guys in the trenches. so there is progress, but most still aren’t really forthcoming about their cycles and and true amounts.

Hey Charles what did you notice once you hit the 5+ iu of GH?

 

[Ateam2023]

Hey Charles what did you notice once you hit the 5+ iu of GH?

yeah Charles, what did you notice?

 

[CHIEF M]

Anyone running Lobster Reta ?

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

There's more to certain peptides than is apparent on HPLC purity testing.

lets pay for testing bro. still waiting for your response.

maybe we can run a gofundme for your share

 

[Ateam2023]

 

[Rbvasques]

Anyone running Lobster Reta ?

I did on my cutting phase.
Worked as expected, havent used Reta from other vendors to compare though.

I have a post here with my cutting results, but basically 35+ pounds loss, 15% bodyfat loss, 16 weeks.
Never went over 7.5mg reta (2.5mg 3x week)

 

[Rbvasques]

This is the post:
Post in thread '36 yo, 24% BF, Cutting'
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/36-yo-24-bf-cutting.134429037/post-3516664

 

[CHIEF M]

This is the post:
Post in thread '36 yo, 24% BF, Cutting'
https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/36-yo-24-bf-cutting.134429037/post-3516664

Thanks bro

 

[CharlesV]

Hey Charles what did you notice once you hit the 5+ iu of GH?

it was the first time that shit started popping since i dialed way back the gear usage. the days off running high gear and chasing numbers & pounds are behind me. a while back i kinda conceded maintenance and just tweaking shape. but with cheaper access gh early last year, i figured wtf.

it was a slow roll, over the course of several months, but vascularity started clearing in places i never really had it full time and muscles were 100% getting fuller than ever…without pumps or breaking keto / carbing up, etc. can’t really speak on actual strength, because fuck injuries, but i certainly look stronger than i did when i was running 2 and 3ius and blasting various combos of gear.

it 100% re-energized me and the effort in the gym too. subsequent Reta discovery helped me get even more dialed in…all with the least amount of gear that i’ve run since i hopped on.

for those guys who can run 3-4iu and see real results? good for them, for real. that was not my experience.

thanks for listening to my Ted Talk.

 

[Avies48]

it was the first time that shit started popping since i dialed way back the gear usage. the days off running high gear and chasing numbers & pounds are behind me. a while back i kinda conceded maintenance and just tweaking shape. but with cheaper access gh early last year, i figured wtf.

it was a slow roll, over the course of several months, but vascularity started clearing in places i never really had it full time and muscles were 100% getting fuller than ever…without pumps or breaking keto / carbing up, etc. can’t really speak on actual strength, because fuck injuries, but i certainly look stronger than i did when i was running 2 and 3ius and blasting various combos of gear.

it 100% re-energized me and the effort in the gym too. subsequent Reta discovery helped me get even more dialed in…all with the least amount of gear that i’ve run since i hopped on.

for those guys who can run 3-4iu and see real results? good for them, for real. that was not my experience.

thanks for listening to my Ted Talk.

Now u say it re-energized u… by how it made u look or u actually felt energy like excitability from gh usage? Honestly asking as this is one question ive had…

Does gh hit ur cns or other nervous sustem and cause anyone to feel anxious or anything like that?

 

[theprodgicalson]

Anyone running Lobster Reta ?

Also have not tried any other vendor. But using 1mg/week 3 weeks until my bulk, have had some drastic composition changes while only being up 3lbs. Like drastic. Other variables at play as well, but BG is staying well within range while upping food and dosages.

Edit...went back and checked my log with my coach. Only up 1lb over my weekly average, but like i said, composition changes have been drastic.