Hey there just wanted to ask some questions of advice I’m starting my first cycle of 250mg test cyp a week and 40mg var with some retatrutide added in sitting at around 180 I’m planning on running the test for 4 weeks then var for the last 8 weeks of the cycle any tips any one would recommend for keeping up with health here? My bloodwork came in pretty average sitting around medium range for E2 LH FSH and around 500ng/dl testosterone and 120ng/dl free testosterone. Planning on taking some TUDCA to manage liver and possibly HCG later on in the cycle + some aromasin if I see anything come up
MESO-Rx
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New member and first cycle
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sionnach
Banned
If you haven't started and you're not 40+, don't bother starting.
If you already started, skip the var. Stay on 250 forever.
Why would you say skip the varIf you haven't started and you're not 40+, don't bother starting.
If you already started, skip the var. Stay on 250 forever.
sionnach
Banned
Let's start with this - what are you taking it for?
Really just a recomp/cut with strength gain I’m not trying to put on crazy mass rn just want to try out and see how I respond to lower dosing like this
sionnach
Banned
Just stick with the T, if anything at all. In the meantime search for var and read up. You're already doing reta? What dose? How old are you? How tall?
I’ve done Reta in the past to cut down successfully I’m starting at 1mg a week again since it’s been a while I’m 20 and about 5’ 10”
sionnach
Banned
Just stay off this shit. For real.
250 isn't a "cycle". It's what old dudes with shriveled nuts who want to feel your age get on forever as TRT+. And that dose of anavar isn't gonna do what you want it to.
Play with reta if you must, it's a pretty cool tool. Delete Instagram and TikTok, they'll give you brain cancer. Don't do drugs. Get a nice girlfriend with zero debt and no cats.
Fair enough I just find my issue is losing strength too much when on Reta and I’ve been very locked in on dieting during a cut yet still have tbis issue, I’m really just trying to break 405 on bench and am so sick of this plateau it’s killing me
sionnach
Banned
Dear god, I hope this is a troll
Hahah unfortunately not just looking for advice lol
Civdiv
Member
Can confirm
Tdeck81
Banned
20 years old 5’10 180lbs, sounds lean but is running diet meds, trying to bench 405 but hasn’t ran peds? Something isnt adding up for me..I think this guy should be running clinics not peds
a brotha can’t try and get stronger while being lean now? I’m big into powerlifting which is the only reason I’ve really wanted to run var in the first place it’s not really for a mass reason just muscle conservation and strength
Tdeck81
Banned
There is nothing wrong with having goals, but you seemingly want to skip to the end of the book before reading chapter one. I’m going to take you seriously and treat you like an adult.
Most young people are not committed or educated enough to responsibly handle the journey you want to undertake. You are more likely to create problems/issues than results. I know, you think you are the exception to the rule.
If you are as serious as you claim, first take this opportunity to utilize the MESO forums to understand why the people responding think you are misguided. I’m not trying to belittle, insult, or dismiss you. I’m honestly giving you the best advice I can. I’ll even give you a hint…peds are the last piece of the pie.
RockyP
Member
This is probably the most important advice in this thread.
The other stuff is also spot on. At 20 you haven't even hit your natural potential. Sure you can run test and anavar and you'll put on some size, get nice a vascular, etc. It'll be great....for a few months. Then (since you're 20 with your entire hormonal life in front of you and not an old fart like some of us) you'll need to do PCT and all this other shit to get back to baseline. Then you'll prob want to cycle again after losing most of the gains. And the next time you'll probably want to run higher doses / more compounds. And this will go on and on until you talk yourself into "bridging" and "cruising." Many of us (myself included) have made these mistakes and more. Just trying to give you honest advice. Anyone who would direct a 20 year old any other way is either ignorant or a salesman.
Bandern
Banned for using multiple active alt accounts
20 year olds are supposed to come on here to tell us they’re gonna take 3 grams of tren and then get bullied
250mg is trt for my alpaca this is ridiculous I can’t work in these conditions
250mg is trt for my alpaca this is ridiculous I can’t work in these conditions
Tbh just was throwing that number out so I don’t tank my test off the var also not really trying to run a ridiculous PCT when I come off lol
sionnach
Banned
If var was the foundation of your idea, you should really, really give it 20 more years.
I mean it wasn’t really if that was the case I’d prolly drop to 125mg of test I more or less just wanted a more moderate cycle to see how I respond
