sionnach
Banned
Your balls are blasting you with more than that
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
New member and first cycle
- Thread starter tmtspet
- Start date
You really think it would take that much PCT to come off that cycle? My whole goal with it was to try and minimize that but if that’s the case I’ll definetly re consider
my test was sitting at like 500ng/dl so idrk about that
Bandern
Banned for using multiple active alt accounts
Work on securing financial stability and meeting a nice girl. Continue training and eating for as long as you stay passionate about it.
When I was 20 I thought I liked john mayer, things change! If it’s something you still give a shit about in 5 years you’ll hopefully be in a better, more educated position to look into enhancement.
When I was 20 I thought I liked john mayer, things change! If it’s something you still give a shit about in 5 years you’ll hopefully be in a better, more educated position to look into enhancement.
Fair enough I’m a college student rn and got quite a great girl I’m not really coming from anywhere of insecurity tbh I just wanted to try PEDs I know I’m not the most educated on the matter but from what I could really pick up 250mg test and some var is not a really consequential stack long term but if that’s not the case I most definetly will wait on it
sionnach
Banned
Not your balls' fault you're not using it right.
Fair enough ig
Tdeck81
Banned
I get it because I was in your shoes once upon a time, most of us probably were at some point. Dumb luck kept me from making that particular mistake when I was your age.
Even if you’ve changed your mind about cycling right now, take some time to read through the forums. That way you’ll fully understand and appreciate what’s been said to help you along. There are training, nutrition, and general health threads/forums to help you through any plateaus you’ve hit. You’ll also be a little more prepared if you start having a change of heart later down the road.
Trainedbytylerlofthouse19
Member
You mention you want to run the Test Cyp for 4 weeks? What is the reasoning behind that?
You also mention wanting to try the Var because your into powerlifting.. The dose you look at taking would give you a good genetic look and nothing more, if already lean you will have very defined mid section, slightly more pumped and polished chest and arms but absolutely no size to write home about.. At 180 I would have you start at least 400mg Test weekly for a full 10 weeks due to the ester you are looking at using and if your absolutely desperate to try the Var, add 4 weeks into the end of the cycle to polish up.. This is your first cycle you don't need to be mixing things you need to see how you react to Test alone.. If you're not reacting well then look at diet and training.. THESE ARE NUMBER UNO
You also mention wanting to try the Var because your into powerlifting.. The dose you look at taking would give you a good genetic look and nothing more, if already lean you will have very defined mid section, slightly more pumped and polished chest and arms but absolutely no size to write home about.. At 180 I would have you start at least 400mg Test weekly for a full 10 weeks due to the ester you are looking at using and if your absolutely desperate to try the Var, add 4 weeks into the end of the cycle to polish up.. This is your first cycle you don't need to be mixing things you need to see how you react to Test alone.. If you're not reacting well then look at diet and training.. THESE ARE NUMBER UNO
Oh nah I was panning on taking the test for a full 12 weeks not 4 just the first 4 I wouldn’t take var
Tdeck81
Banned
I mean this with zero animosity, but you are doing this young man a disservice. Any quick google search could have given him that regiment. You didn’t even ask him about his general health, preexisting medical conditions, nothing but decided to step him up with a program? The way you glossed over nutrition and training is the exact pitfall we were warning this young man about.
He is clearly lacking the foundation of knowledge to be successful. Again no disrespect, but if you don’t understand how we were trying to help this guy, and how your encouragement and validation negated the good we were doing, then you should rethink interacting with new members.
Trainedbytylerlofthouse19
Member
I'm giving a true idea of what his gear will do for him.. He never mentioned food and training so I didn't think he was that interested.. If you look at my posts you will see I'm quick to advocate low doses and that training and diet comes first..
You guys had given him the low down on food already.. My way of harm reduction is speaking the truth.. Iv found most guys I speak to in my local gym, once I get into gear with them they don't even wanna try it.. I see that as a win.. None taken and none given my friend, I will rethink my future posts
Tdeck81
Banned
I truly believe you were only trying to be helpful and wasn’t trying to be a prick. I’m more of a live and let live.
I think the young man is way out over his skis and remember how impetuous I was at 20. If I had to bet I would guess he’s here for a source and someone to green light his poor decision.
People will ultimately do what they want. My only real hope is he takes some time to educate himself in order to make good mature decisions.
sionnach
Banned
9/10 Meso users under 30
Raiders789
Member
Hey bro, I'm 20 too and I'd thought I'd share my experience/advice with being on PEDs for the last 7 months.
To start - I'd ask what your main goals are. If you are gonna start pinning test there is def a chance you won't get your full natural production back, but even just taking PCT drugs when you end your cycle is gonna make you lose gains and you'll feel like shit for a while. I'd say that if you choose to take the test it should be a long term decision and you just start blasting and cruising perpetually. I think thats a tough decision because you're in a good spot at 500 natural test. Before I started using PEDs my total test was at 300 and free test was at 7.8, which is why I plan to at least be on TRT for a while because even when I was cruising on 175 test I feel sooo much better then I did natty.
Also, if u start test there's gonna be a bunch of other things you'd have to monitor and worry about so you stay healthy; like your bp, E2, cholesterol, etc. I don't mind constantly checking these but it's gonna cost time and $$. I personally think it's worth it but youre definitely gonna have to commit to it. Anavar will wreck your lipids too especially if you do 40mg for 8 weeks; I'd recommend either keeping that shorter or looking into cholesterol meds.
I think that if you aren't prepared to be on test for long term you could always consider a short anavar only cycle, maybe with some HCG on cycle too to keep your natural production up. You could also try HCG monotherapy as well, I'm sure you'd be able to get similar results to 250 test from like 1000 IU hcg EOD, and if you decide you wanna come off PCT won't be as bad.
I think the reta is great - I've been on 10mg/week on my bulk and it noticeably improves my bloodwork and keeps me locked on my diet; regardless if you do test or not I think you should keep running the reta.
But yea bro from what I read it doesn't sound like you're ready to fully commit to test long term which is totally fine. IMO I think if you tried it you would realize how awesome it is and not want to come off
, but my advice would be to really think about it and also possibly consider anavar only or anavar + hcg. Lowkey kinda wish I started off like that, but I'm also happy with where I'm at right now.
