sionnach
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I want UGL to be better than pharma shit. And in a lot of ways, it already is.
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RockyP
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I think there is a LARGE market for products with the proper stoppers, raw tests on every batch, etc. Like most retail business models, it’s a race to the bottom in terms of pricing and the consumer ultimately wins (but embedded in that price war is often lower quality). But Ferrari is Ferrari, and it behaves like a luxury product company rather than an auto manufacturer. We need a Ferrari in this space. And I think they would clean up.
Thanks for being here!
That's the kind of attitude I am looking for. I got plenty of money and too much time tied into that tren adventure.
Still not sure how much I will ask to be reimbursed. Was thinking if nothing there in the results then everyone can have their money back. The BTC is all there.
Easy to talk shit from the sidelines or even passive aggressively mock all this. That's cool. I hope it is fun for some. That's part of the appeal here. Entertainment.
And guess what? I still aint tried tren, yet. Waiting for the good stuff, lol. Wasn't going to use that brown shit i received.
And for some of this gear there is no pharma. I get it.
SwolieGuacamole
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Not sure if this has been discussed. But obviously there’s some dark tren, and some pretty clear tren out there. Has anyone ran both and noticed any difference with side effects/blood work?
That would be a great thread if folks could be disciplined and run the blood work like a clinical trial as best they could. The mental stuff is harder to document. Then there is the "cough"
I am going to get a baseline with the TRA 75 HR if I get my order in on time.
Tdeck81
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I just figure maybe this time it isn’t something I’m into. But if no one takes the initiative to start these type studies, or generates the type of interest it needs to maintain it, then it’s less likely to be duplicated for anything else in the future. As much as I like busting balls and having fun this is a little more interesting to me personally.
Well thank you for helping.
AlexDavis43
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Yes, same predictable sides regardless of color ime
I'd be shocked if people were routinely running 50% underdosed tren and not noticing it
+/- 10%, sure, but -50% ?
Photon
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I'm saying that there's a limit to what can be done.
The current project is trying to get vendors to brew tren at low heat.
My project is trying to get vendors to upgrade their bottletop filters.
People here are getting vendors to upgrade vials, stoppers, etc.
These are doable.
But..
Getting raws changed? I think that's past the limit.
There will be demand for Tren, regardless of whether its 50% active or not as long as it's priced right (Chinese vendors). The demand for low priced gear is huge, people will buy even without any sort of testing.
Vendors are not going to stop selling it and force raw suppliers to change their raws process.
There is a demand for high quality products, yes.
But sometimes i wonder if some of these US Dom vendors are really of higher quality...
We should focus on things that can be changed..I don't believe raws are one of them..
sionnach
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I thought I had it bookmarked and lost it, but was reading something the other day about "the cough" being from ricinoleic acid, which is most commonly found in castor oil, but can also come from ergot, a fungus that can grow on other grains and seeds used to make oils used for injectable AAS.
How many have the finaplix tren API experience to compare against mg for mg. Just feels?
Plenty of talk about people run 2 to 3 times more mg/week than 20 years ago. Is that just social media effect or "tren inflation"?
We know active form of tren (17-beta). Easy to measure via NMR.
Well I appreciate you engaging and sharing your thoughts. Depending on what's found a domestic raw supplier could easily come in and address a tren issue if it was found. Lower volume, higher price. BOUTIQUE.
May happen anyway in general given the raws situation.
I have no idea. Thanks for sharing that.
Photon
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So far I've only seen raws from India and China..
For India i think pench is the only one using their raws..
I'm sure there's others..but that might be a bit far fetched.
I think Q mentioned before there's only a few raw suppliers in China. You either take it, 50% or not, or you move on and remain OOS. Others will gladly take it.
I'm sure there's others..but that's a different topic i guess.
Yep that is what he said.
I think we may have found the sweet spot with it. Raw availability is limited so we are waiting for some more before we roll it out as we believe it will be a pretty hot product. Appreciate the patience brothers, lots of great things on the horizon.
Ah, okay. As long as there’s nothing actually wrong with it I’ll run it. I bought quite a bit so would hate to have to toss it lmao
Dial It In
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I for one haven’t done tren in a while. I mean I love the stuff. But if this results in a better quality and reduced harm then for me I may give it a go again.
Tdeck81
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I guarantee you’re right assuming there is no meaningful difference. But what happens if there is a significant finding? I think as more middle aged men start entering this realm, like me, there will be a demand for cleaner better options. If there is no difference…no harm no foul, but at minimum we will know. I get it..everyone likes a deal but my opinion is older clientele might be more discerning
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