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What’s quite surprising is the amount of BB they’re using for such a small milligram TC200mg and 25 to 30% BB. Thats a lot. While it’s may not be dangerous BB higher amounts can be a nuisance if you experience, well I’ll let the study in conclusion explain.

Absolutely. I always want min solvent to do the job.
 
See Fig 7. But whole thing is fun read.


Yeah I know these are test esters. But the spread is quite large and tabulated for the oils. See the supplemental data for solubility tables.

Hypothesis: Is "undercutting" the carrier causing an issue by increasing the cloud point of your supersaturated solutions? That is, you are pushing to higher API concentration.
 
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Related. I always find this patent application hilarious. On the forums it would be a couple of sentences. With Pfizer, it is a whole patent application.



See Fig. 1 and temps used in example 2. Also paragraph for lines 23-30.

For the TRA, are you doing 100 mg/ml? What is your BB content? Brew temp held how long?
Fucking cottonseed...

Demarcus Cousins Sport GIF
 
Fucking cottonseed...

Demarcus Cousins Sport GIF
Fun fact: cottonseed oil contains gossypol, which can cause infertility in men (irreversible in about 20% of subjects in contraceptive trials)

 
Residue of TREN base shit from manufacturing. Has been happening lately with TREN A raws.

Many ppl report sediments in the bottom as well.

There are a few cases and ppl that talks about it in the forum, go have a look around.

The best way to source imho is high minimum and I Mean really high.

500$ minimum order. It automatically creates a barrier for all those shitty order of 1 vial here 1 vial there.

Anyone that can't drop at least 500$ on an order is not worth having as a customer and imho after you have a made a small name for yourself I would raise that to a 1000$ for any new client.

It's a dangerous game so if I was doing it I would do it only for good money and cheap orders bring good money only after big volume and that brings heat, problems and sometime a window with restricted view of the world. No thank you.

If you were smart you would be a boutique shop, one were ppl "kills" to get an invite and throw money at you just so they can say: I inject his oil, because I can.
I completely missed this post as the forum updated. Very well said sir. I do remember you Sampei back in the day as a member. Yes The TRA sentiments and all of trying to figure out why or how to get rid of it. Intervals of heat
and filtering it 2 or 3 times does the job.
 
By undercutting the carrier you yield a stronger compound
By stronger you mean you are increasing or decreasing the saturation concentration of API?

Same mg API
Same mg BB
Less carrier oil

Higher overall API concentration

Saturation concentration goes up or down?
 
Fun fact: cottonseed oil contains gossypol, which can cause infertility in men (irreversible in about 20% of subjects in contraceptive trials)

Awesome backup to the Testosterone for doing the job. Whew!!
 
By stronger you mean you are increasing or decreasing the saturation concentration of API?

Same mg API
Same mg BB
Less carrier oil

Higher overall API concentration

Saturation concentration goes up or down?
We are increasing the mg API by undercutting the Carrier since there is less yield but the same amount of API. BB would have to increase due to less carrier.
 
We are increasing the mg API by undercutting the Carrier since there is less yield but the same amount of API. BB would have to increase due to less carrier.
So evidently there is demand for a say 116 mg/ml product when the nominal target is 100?

Thanks for your time in describing. If the product listing is 100, why undercut carrier? I see this on a few of your listings. The customers just like getting that extra mg/ml? Makes them feel good?
 
Ok, I think i understand what you mean by stronger now. If you target 100 mg/ml, why not just make 100 mg/ml?
Most brewers usually slightly overdose, mainly just wanted to give the client a tad bit more. But will work on hitting the desired target rather than overshooting or giving more
 
Most brewers usually slightly overdose, mainly just wanted to give the client a tad bit more. But will work on hitting the desired target rather than overshooting or giving more
Just seems like a PITA for you and increases your cloud points. Major pain.

Thanks for your generous time. I am with you. Listing says 200 mg/ml. Do 200. Less trouble down the road potentially with crystallization of supersaturated solutions.
 
So evidently there is demand for a say 116 mg/ml product when the nominal target is 100?

Thanks for your time in describing. If the product listing is 100, why undercut carrier? I see this on a few of your listings. The customers just like getting that extra mg/ml? Makes them feel good?
Indeed they would love the extra. More so if the compound was say for example Mast Enanthate
 
Indeed they would love the extra. More so if the compound was say for example Mast Enanthate
What an interesting culture. You are patient and gracious to explain it to me. I am looking at the whole process and this is a potential pain point for thermo stability of your oils.
 
Moving forward we keep
It simple though
In my head, vendor hits the target I'm like this guy knows what he is doing.

Target: 100
Actual: 100.2
awesome!

Target: 100
Actual: 121.2
Wtf?

Also makes it look like you dont test your raws in my head cause you are overdosing on purpose. But in your mind you are trying to be generous to customer. You can't win lol!
 
Just seems like a PITA for you and increases your cloud points. Major pain.

Thanks for your generous time. I am with you. Listing says 200 mg/ml. Do 200. Less trouble down the road potentially with crystallization of supersaturated solutions.

I'd reckon most brewers use a higher amount of solvents than the minimum required, so even if they increase the concentration, it shouldn't matter as much. (To cater for temperature differences for e.g). 2/20 seems very popular for e.g, but most don't need 20% bb.

Most in general would also use more raws, to account for testing variances / margin of error in measurements etc. I'd think within 10% is acceptable, similar to pharma.
 

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