How did the myth start that Primobolan was an AI?

We insulted you for not following up with it. All of us took a step back and waited. You just lied. YOu are delusional.
Yeah, I didn't see any waiting.

And it's not like you couldn't say "Hey Eryximachus, we'll all pipe down here if you donate $500 to this testing. It was wrong of us to keep hassling you.".
 
Well, I think crash is subjective and many have mentioned that. LabCorp’s range is 8-35 and I guess you could say below 8 is crashed. I’ve come close at 10 and that felt shitty enough to be considered crashed for me.
Regardless, I will post the results. I suppose it is entirely possible that low estrogen doesn't affect me negatively.

I will be using Quest.
 
Yeah, I didn't see any waiting.

And it's not like you couldn't say "Hey Eryximachus, we'll all pipe down here if you donate $500 to this testing. It was wrong of us to keep hassling you.".
It's not like you couldn't just not lie and call it a day.
You just keep proving you're worthy of the shittalk with every post.


You're wrong, it's been proven 10+ years ago, you have someone you respect in the field explain why you're wrong, you got plenty of anecdotes, acted like fool and need to pop some dbol so you're less of a crashed E2 asshole.

Allright I'm out of here for a bit, talking to someone with such deep delusions is getting disturbing.
 
Respectfully, that's not how the scientific method works.

There are no "experts" on this topic; this is no dig at T2X. His other write-up shared at the beginning of the thread says as much.
Understood. But apart from our labs and anecdotal evidence we are not going to get much further with this topic. None of us are scientists and none of us will be performing an RCT to prove or disprove a medical intervention truly works or not.
 
None of us are scientists
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Lol. I get your point though. Gotta get back inside to Foot Locker. Smoke break over.
 
Where? Shall we roll the tape?
It would be kind of inferred, I think. But it was not crystal clear, which is why I was still willing to donate - in addition to just trying to be an all around nice guy.

You guys can enjoy your circle of vitriol. It sounds like all of you are very successful in life and should have no trouble cobbling together $500.
 
Please describe your procedure, blood work ordered and control data. Same test dose +/- primo?

Details.
Whatever they do at Quest to test estradiol.

My test dose is 180mg and the primo dose is 400mg. I keep high doses for the winter.
 
In any event, I did "dig deeper" by extensively researching the history of this topic on this forum and verified, after multiple searches, that the claims of the gang in this forum regarding Primoblan "crashing" estrogen are not more than 3 years old. No one 10 years ago or 5 years ago was claiming this.
This can be easily explained. Primo wasn't as readily available from China, affordable, as popular, as widely used, and at such high doses until around that time. Ordering your own labs to test sensitive e2 was also not nearly as easy to do or affordable. Combine all that and it's obvious why there weren't reports until more recently. Steroids are scheduled drugs and most uses for them have been replaced by newer drugs so there's no money to do research on them or study them anymore
 
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This can be easily explained. Primo wasn't as readily available from China, affordable, as popular, as widely used, and at such high doses until around that time. Ordering your own labs to test sensitive e2 was also not nearly as easy to do or affordable. Combine all that and it's obvious why there weren't reports until more recently. Steroids are scheduled drugs and most uses for them have been replaced by newer drugs so there's no money to do research on them or study them anymore
You’ll also notice on online forums that there was the belief that Primo was often fake around that same time period. Between that and limited availability there are just not a lot of reports of people using Primo before 2020.
 
Understood. But apart from our labs and anecdotal evidence we are not going to get much further with this topic. None of us are scientists and none of us will be performing an RCT to prove or disprove a medical intervention truly works or not.
Would be cool to organize one though
 
Regardless, I will post the results. I suppose it is entirely possible that low estrogen doesn't affect me negatively.

I will be using Quest.
Ime , sensitive e2 test from quest takes quite some time, upwards of 10-14 days nowadays, sometimes faster, Labcorp isn't much better, on par with Quest ime
 
Ime , sensitive e2 test from quest takes quite some time, upwards of 10-14 days nowadays, sometimes faster, Labcorp isn't much better, on par with Quest ime
I’ve noticed on some of the discount lab websites they are warning everyone that E2 sensitive/ultrasensitive labs results have a significant delay, it’s nationwide and affects Quest and LabCorp. Which is what we already knew. But it’s a good reminder.
 
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