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dick_starbuck said:
It always boggled my mind when they always brewed it at 50mg/ml.

Back in the day when Pure Oils released the first "real" trest on the market, it was 50mg/ml, but that was due to lack of raws/cost. Since then everyone followed suite.
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It's marketing, on expensive substances it sells more a less expensive vials (even if the price is just half of the double concentration one) because of tricks the mind play.
It's the same when you go to a supermarket and you see things 9.99c instead of 10.

Because average ppl brain see 9 not 9.99.

If there was no pip difference for example it's a lot easier to sell 10 vials of primo 100 at 60 each then 5 vials of primo 200 at 120 each.

Same total cost but the impact when looking at the price is night and day.

Average person can't even do basic math xD
 
Sampei said:
It's marketing, on expensive substances it sells more a less expensive vials (even if the price is just half of the double concentration one) because of tricks the mind play.
It's the same when you go to a supermarket and you see things 9.99c instead of 10.

Because average ppl brain see 9 not 9.99.

If there was no pip difference for example it's a lot easier to sell 10 vials of primo 100 at 60 each then 5 vials of primo 200 at 120 each.

Same total cost but the impact when looking at the price is night and day.

Average person can't even do basic math xD
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As someone who is constantly doing math to see what the mg/$ price is, even sometimes going so far as to calculate in ester weight, I find it hilarious what the "average" person falls for due to marketing and mathematical illiteracy.
 
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AllGoodThings said:
As someone who is constantly doing math to see what the mg/$ price is, even sometimes going so far as to calculate in ester weight, I find it hilarious what the "average" person falls for due to marketing and mathematical illiteracy.
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Think of how dumb the average person is… then remember half of people are even dumber..

Think that came from the late/great George Carlin, but it is so true.

100mg is good. Yea vials looks expensive but 1+ gm of MENT lasts a long time. At least it should. I’ve read of people using 100mg/day but that’s about 3-10x more than a dose that maximizes anabolism and where the estrogen can still be controlled. Over about 35mg/day exemestane typically isn’t sufficient to reduce it enough requiring high dose letrozole. At that point, it should be obvious one is using too much of the compound.

It’s strong stuff:
TRT+ is 2-3mg/day
Light cycle is 5-25mg/day
Heavy cycle is 25-50mg/day
Nuclear blast cycle is > 50mg/day < expect fallout

Test is optional, not needed. If used keep it at HRT levels ~ 10mg/day or even less if using HCG.

And at non-nuclear doses only use Aromasin, MENT only binds with aromatase at 33% efficiency of test so competitive inhibitors like anastrozole are at a big disadvantage when trying to control the estrogen particularly when test is also around. When it does bind, the 7α-methylestradiol produced is at about much more than estradiol, despite similar ER binding affinity, because it has about 4x the transcription activity via ER and does not bind to SHBG so it’s all free to get to the receptors.

I’ve been using it for years at varying doses. It’s (and tren) are the best compounds if used smartly. And the worst if not.
 
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bigdaddyandfriends said:
Think of how dumb the average person is… then remember half of people are even dumber..

Think that came from the late/great George Carlin, but it is so true.

100mg is good. Yea vials looks expensive but 1+ gm of MENT lasts a long time. At least it should. I’ve read of people using 100mg/day but that’s about 3-10x more than a dose that maximizes anabolism and where the estrogen can still be controlled. Over about 35mg/day exemestane typically isn’t sufficient to reduce it enough requiring high dose letrozole. At that point, it should be obvious one is using too much of the compound.

It’s strong stuff:
TRT+ is 2-3mg/day
Light cycle is 5-25mg/day
Heavy cycle is 25-50mg/day
Nuclear blast cycle is > 50mg/day < expect fallout

Test is optional, not needed. If used keep it at HRT levels ~ 10mg/day or even less if using HCG.

And at non-nuclear doses only use Aromasin, it only binds with aromatase at 33% efficiency of test so competitive inhibitors like anastrozole are at a big disadvantage when trying to control the estrogen particularly when test is also around.

I’ve been using it for years at varying doses. It’s (and tren) are the best compounds if used smartly. And the worst if not.
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It has become exceedingly apparent I don’t know nearly enough about ment.
 
cajunpauper said:
It has become exceedingly apparent I don’t know nearly enough about ment.
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I have zero experience and maybe some raws inbound xD

If I hadn't gyno gland cut out I would say man tits was the next step in my evolution, luckily for me probably I'll just cry in front of any movies while wondering why.

@bigdaddyandfriends does primo or EQ counteract trest estrogen production or it's like DBOL where it's a special kind of estrogen so no fucking way to control it much?

20mg/day is a bit too much for first time ment? 10mg better?
 
Sampei said:
I have zero experience and maybe some raws inbound xD

If I hadn't gyno gland cut out I would say man tits was the next step in my evolution, luckily for me probably I'll just cry in front of any movies while wondering why.

@bigdaddyandfriends does primo or EQ counteract trest estrogen production or it's like DBOL where it's a special kind of estrogen so no fucking way to control it much?

20mg/day is a bit too much for first time ment? 10mg better?
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When I first used MENT it was 25mg a day and that blew my socks off. This was back in 2014 when Pure Oils came out with it. I think starting there is a good place for an experienced AAS user.
 
dick_starbuck said:
To add:

I did that cycle WITHOUT test. I think it was 25mg trest and 100mg mast e a day? Or something like that.
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How was the estrogen control problematic? BP? Water retention?

I have zero clue about ment, just reading shit online right now but I prefer to gather info from ppl that have tried it compared to random statement of unknown retards

I can't do no test as my TRT is testo U. If I stop it... Then it takes 3 months almost to go back to stable level when I restart it.

So I'll keep my test U and add ment on top, plus EQ or primo
 
Sampei said:
How was the estrogen control problematic? BP? Water retention?

I have zero clue about ment, just reading shit online right now but I prefer to gather info from ppl that have tried it compared to random statement of unknown retards

I can't do no test as my TRT is testo U. If I stop it... Then it takes 3 months almost to go back to stable level when I restart it.

So I'll keep my test U and add ment on top, plus EQ or primo
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Well to be fair in your defense most of the valuable info we have on anabolics are anecdotes so I tend to value them with AAS a bit more. so to your point
Also u hurt my feelings earlier sampy just sayin
 
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