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[malomkarom]

I don't know what's in the vial for certain.
- I maybe shared testing costs with a friend - but we have the same product batch. So you know. If i would just buyed it alone, one test would be fine, if we split the cartons afterwards thats a problem? come on.

I don't know how much is in there for certain.
- I maybe shared testing costs with a friend - but we have the same product batch. So you know. If i would just buyed it alone, one test would be fine, if we split the cartons afterwards thats a problem? come on.

I don't know whether you store customer data or not, and if so where.
- I store all data on my extremely well secured server. I have darknet experience for many years, never got hacked, never got busted. Feel free to attack me. Only skilled hackers have a chance and against me, and against those you do mostlikely nothing, besides backing up the server.
Heres a censored screen from my backend, Data from Germany gets deleted after 14 days, outside of Germany due to longer delivery time, is stored 21 days. You can see, theres no more orders to see after 21 days ago:

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I don't know if you have orders written on a piece of paper or in a word document saved on desktop rather than on a secure server.
- Just scan my site, you will see my server is extremely secure.

I don't know how many people ordered from outside Meso and got nothing, like there have been cases here aswell before stating it publically. 90+% of the community doesn't even have forum accounts for obvious reason, unlike us retards.
- if i would scam with the many orders i have, you would read this here. There is not 1 single comment, that i scammed people - other than people just saying it, without ordering from me

I don't know whether your vials are contaminated. You might believe your gymbros that it's all sterile shit but that is not proof.
- How should i proof that? I never have seen a proof for this somewhere else.

On the other hand It's getting pretty sure that your under 20.
- I guess youre not good with age guessing.

It's pretty sure you don't have the wits to deal AAS abroad.
- Im selling in whole Europe and im not interested in any other locations.

It's pretty sure your shipping method is not safe for either party, howerer fast it is.
- Its very good, i know the stealth packaging of my competition. I dont lack anything, it doesnt looks like what it is, theres a bill, theres everything needed to blend it in.

It's 100% sure you have straight 0 knowledge on AAS in general, let alone the details you try going into, potentially causing harm.
- Not so sure about this, i might not be a brewer, but im taking this stuff myself for nearly 10 years and know a thing or two. Surely theres people that know more.

I'm also pretty sure you are brewing without any fucking clue whatsoever, as you've called the new GSO-MCT line "my new line" multiple times. That is straight up dangerous.
- Wait for the final products before you judge, be fair.

You still haven't answered anything really. You are runnign circles around the question ending up with something related but not answering the question.


The problem with the test isn't sharing the cost.
It's not sending in your own product.
You've stated before that some tests are indeed just from your source and both of you are added for 2nd and 3rd customer without actually having sent your stuff in for testing cause it's the same stuff.

We've gotten proof in this thread that Medi is fine with faking tests. Everyone including you is free to check for that themselves.

I don't care whether you felt scammed or not. There's proof he does the shit, and you aren't willing to help prove your gear is fine. You literally just sold 2000 primo not long before seeing a test about it being fake. DOn't tell me you couldn't order 2001 just to have one tested, or simply sell 1999 only. It's ridiculous. We're talking about tens of thousands you made before you even got it, 1 jano test is a pinpoint.


You site being secure doesn't make you secure. There's more to this than a website which you either know and that's the exact reason you aren't open about it, or just don't really understand this part of the business either. Each are just as bad.
Not storing tracking is just part of customer data. As much as an e-mail address can be problematic, let's not make it look like 1 page on your backend is everything you have. That doesn't prove anything.

Sterility testing can be requested by Jano. Also heavy metals. This isn't usually that big of a deal, but with how arrogant and slimey you are on basically every question, we can't really trust you with much.

Shipping doesn't revolve around speed and the outer layer of the parcel only. There's a reason most sources don't have express shipping at all, which pairs well with you not offering reships in the beginning, having not proven to do so now either, it's just empty talk again.

Taking a drug doesn't leave you smarter about it. On the other hand, taking a shitload of androgens can help you be very fucking sure you're helping someone while giving advice that might be deadly. You literally said noone ever had problems with eo and it isn't unhealthy. That is straight up dangerous to 10-20% of people and you arean't exactly using little in any of the brands..

I don't have to wait and judge the final product to know that someone without a clue will not brew something good. Not like it's rocket science, I just wouldn't trust you to brew my tea with how fishy/suspucious you act.

 

[malomkarom]

Look, I'm sitting home with 41c fever.

First off I have a shitload of time to do this.

Second, it's gotta be embarrassing that I can still play with you like this without much ttrouble. I slept maybe 2 hours in 2 days combined with serious fever.

 

[Nidus]

I don't know what's in the vial for certain.
- I maybe shared testing costs with a friend - but we have the same product batch. So you know. If i would just buyed it alone, one test would be fine, if we split the cartons afterwards thats a problem? come on.

I don't know how much is in there for certain.
- I maybe shared testing costs with a friend - but we have the same product batch. So you know. If i would just buyed it alone, one test would be fine, if we split the cartons afterwards thats a problem? come on.

I don't know whether you store customer data or not, and if so where.
- I store all data on my extremely well secured server. I have darknet experience for many years, never got hacked, never got busted. Feel free to attack me. Only skilled hackers have a chance and against me, and against those you do mostlikely nothing, besides backing up the server.
Heres a censored screen from my backend, Data from Germany gets deleted after 14 days, outside of Germany due to longer delivery time, is stored 21 days. You can see, theres no more orders to see after 21 days ago:

View attachment 346429

I don't know if you have orders written on a piece of paper or in a word document saved on desktop rather than on a secure server.
- Just scan my site, you will see my server is extremely secure.

I don't know how many people ordered from outside Meso and got nothing, like there have been cases here aswell before stating it publically. 90+% of the community doesn't even have forum accounts for obvious reason, unlike us retards.
- if i would scam with the many orders i have, you would read this here. There is not 1 single comment, that i scammed people - other than people just saying it, without ordering from me

I don't know whether your vials are contaminated. You might believe your gymbros that it's all sterile shit but that is not proof.
- How should i proof that? I never have seen a proof for this somewhere else.

On the other hand It's getting pretty sure that your under 20.
- I guess youre not good with age guessing.

It's pretty sure you don't have the wits to deal AAS abroad.
- Im selling in whole Europe and im not interested in any other locations.

It's pretty sure your shipping method is not safe for either party, howerer fast it is.
- Its very good, i know the stealth packaging of my competition. I dont lack anything, it doesnt looks like what it is, theres a bill, theres everything needed to blend it in.

It's 100% sure you have straight 0 knowledge on AAS in general, let alone the details you try going into, potentially causing harm.
- Not so sure about this, i might not be a brewer, but im taking this stuff myself for nearly 10 years and know a thing or two. Surely theres people that know more.

I'm also pretty sure you are brewing without any fucking clue whatsoever, as you've called the new GSO-MCT line "my new line" multiple times. That is straight up dangerous.
- Wait for the final products before you judge, be fair.

You are storing customers data? Ouch.

 

[Sampei]

You are storing customers data? Ouch.

Guys you know I'm all for bashing sources but that's standard for any sources, he explained it as well, the data are stored for a maximum of 14 days and 21 days for some countries.

It can't be avoided or ppl could reverse scam everyday a source if you don't keep track of what you sent and to whom.

Let's be reasonable, I would say it's quite good that he has a system in place for cleaning customers information automatically, imagine if he was doing it by hand and he missed something and then you would have your information stored forever.

Btw Chinese sources probably 99% never clean customers information, just to put everything in perspective

 

[malomkarom]

Btw Chinese sources probably 99% never clean customers information, just to put everything in perspective

There's also basically nothing anyone can do with my info on a chinese server, other than send me an ebay parcel.

EU to EU is a bit rougher, but 14-21 days is reasonable imo aswell. If that is all customer data, not just a summary of your order.

 

[Nidus]

Guys you know I'm all for bashing sources but that's standard for any sources, he explained it as well, the data are stored for a maximum of 14 days and 21 days for some countries.

It can't be avoided or ppl could reverse scam everyday a source if you don't keep track of what you sent and to whom.

Let's be reasonable, I would say it's quite good that he has a system in place for cleaning customers information automatically, imagine if he was doing it by hand and he missed something and then you would have your information stored forever.

Btw Chinese sources probably 99% never clean customers information, just to put everything in perspective

I might have been to quick with my response, you make a good and fair point. My assumption was that it's just the order itself, the purchase and payment history together with the address then remaining as part of the store credit system and discount system

 

[Blitzschnell]

You still haven't answered anything really. You are runnign circles around the question ending up with something related but not answering the question.


The problem with the test isn't sharing the cost.
It's not sending in your own product.
You've stated before that some tests are indeed just from your source and both of you are added for 2nd and 3rd customer without actually having sent your stuff in for testing cause it's the same stuff.

We've gotten proof in this thread that Medi is fine with faking tests. Everyone including you is free to check for that themselves.

I don't care whether you felt scammed or not. There's proof he does the shit, and you aren't willing to help prove your gear is fine. You literally just sold 2000 primo not long before seeing a test about it being fake. DOn't tell me you couldn't order 2001 just to have one tested, or simply sell 1999 only. It's ridiculous. We're talking about tens of thousands you made before you even got it, 1 jano test is a pinpoint.


You site being secure doesn't make you secure. There's more to this than a website which you either know and that's the exact reason you aren't open about it, or just don't really understand this part of the business either. Each are just as bad.
Not storing tracking is just part of customer data. As much as an e-mail address can be problematic, let's not make it look like 1 page on your backend is everything you have. That doesn't prove anything.

Sterility testing can be requested by Jano. Also heavy metals. This isn't usually that big of a deal, but with how arrogant and slimey you are on basically every question, we can't really trust you with much.

Shipping doesn't revolve around speed and the outer layer of the parcel only. There's a reason most sources don't have express shipping at all, which pairs well with you not offering reships in the beginning, having not proven to do so now either, it's just empty talk again.

Taking a drug doesn't leave you smarter about it. On the other hand, taking a shitload of androgens can help you be very fucking sure you're helping someone while giving advice that might be deadly. You literally said noone ever had problems with eo and it isn't unhealthy. That is straight up dangerous to 10-20% of people and you arean't exactly using little in any of the brands..

I don't have to wait and judge the final product to know that someone without a clue will not brew something good. Not like it's rocket science, I just wouldn't trust you to brew my tea with how fishy/suspucious you act.

First of all, i hope you get better soon. Dont wish fever wiht 41 to anyone. Not even you, under this circumstances. Explains also why you are in a pretty bad mood.

We shipped our own gear to AB. I will send some more tests soon. Will proof that this is not bullshit.

Like i said, i did not sold any Primo of the 2000 vials ive ordered, since it was not in my last order, like it should. I replaced already many people that preordered it and payed me already. So thats not correct. It might have sounded arrogant how i said that before, but the truth is people just want to have it, no matter what. Its stupid, i agree.

If i would be open about security details of my site, it would not be secure. But following a 5 minute Youtube tutorial and how scan websites for weaknesses, and use this knowledge to scan 3 competitioners and me, would reveal that indeed my site is on a different level. So is the whole opsec around this operation. Tracking data is stored securely on the server. I have to do so, otherwise everyone could order from me and just say it did not arrive and i have to replace them. Also customers loose their data on a regular basis and expect me to know where their shipment is.

I will make such a tests, lets see those results. Dont call me arrogant, im just pissed about reading this accusations. I bet you would not react charming to this either, if you would be in my position. Im sitting here around 12 hours a day, trying to make everything as best as possible and then read that i should be a scammer - while customers write me how happy they are, that their package arrives 1 day after ordering from me.

Also i think if you take gear yourself close to 10 years and look great, without health issues - just the opposite, beeing very fit and sporty, gives you some knowledge you can pass. Also i never stated im any kind of professional athlete. I just look good and im sporty.

I dont even brew the final product. People who know better than me do. I would never come to the idea, to do this myself. When theres so much better people around for this. What im doing is finding products that are wanted. You will be quite surprised. And like said, im creating the brand in cooperation with a big Lab, that created several brands that are known.

 

[Blitzschnell]

You are storing customers data? Ouch.

I guess you never run any onlineshop. If you dont have customer data stored, how you replace people? How you would even check, if the packet didnt arrived first of all? What if a customer asks where the package is? How you know what to reorder and when? I know it sound nice, to send and delete all data. But its not practically working. People would be pissed and you would be deemed as unprofessional. Also AES-256 encrypted databases are not a security risk. Weak passwords and shitty opsec are.

Theres not a single shop owner here, that saves no data. I would bet money on it. What there is, is shop owners who dont even know how to encrypt a database and i guess theres plenty of them. Not an easy task, if you have a steroid background and not familiar with IT.

Im following high IT standards regarding encryption and servermanagement. Something few people do, since IT people are extremely expensive and hard to gather for illegal projects. Lucky me, i can do it myself with the background i have.

 

[malomkarom]

First of all, i hope you get better soon. Dont wish fever wiht 41 to anyone. Not even you, under this circumstances. Explains also why you are in a pretty bad mood.

Thanks, appreciated.

Like i said, i did not sold any Primo of the 2000 vials ive ordered, since it was not in my last order, like it should. I replaced already many people that preordered it and payed me already.

So you did sell it, you just had to storno the orders.

If i would be open about security details of my site, it would not be secure. But following a 5 minute Youtube tutorial and how scan websites for weaknesses, and use this knowledge to scan 3 competitioners and me, would reveal that indeed my site is on a different level. So is the whole opsec around this operation. Tracking data is stored securely on the server. I have to do so, otherwise everyone could order from me and just say it did not arrive and i have to replace them. Also customers loose their data on a regular basis and expect me to know where their shipment is.

Fair answer, I actually skipped some of the security part of the previous one, sorry bout that. No proof, but it is a fair answer.

I will make such a tests, lets see those results. Dont call me arrogant, im just pissed about reading this accusations. I bet you would not react charming to this either, if you would be in my position. Im sitting here around 12 hours a day, trying to make everything as best as possible and then read that i should be a scammer - while customers write me how happy they are, that their package arrives 1 day after ordering from me.

But you are arrogant. Until you actually post the tests you've been promising for a while now, you even a liar on top of arrogant. I've worked long shifts my entire life. I know how it is. I've worked as a trainer too, I've always been an asshole boss to myself, that's doesn't prove or even just change anything. Shipping speed is still not a factor. You managed to skip the concern again, you've done that atleast 10 times by now.

Express shipping isn't safe. Period. No reships is also proof of that.

Also i think if you take gear yourself close to 10 years and look great, without health issues - just the opposite, beeing very fit and sporty, gives you some knowledge you can pass. Also i never stated im any kind of professional athlete. I just look good and im sporty.

Looks and knowledge have nothing to do with eachother. There are olympians with surprisingly okay bloodworks. It's in very large majority genetic. Da fuck am I supposed to do with you not being a pro athlete wtf. Just dancing around the concerns again.

I dont even brew the final product. People who know better than me do. I would never come to the idea, to do this myself. When theres so much better people around for this. What im doing is finding products that are wanted. You will be quite surprised. And like said, im creating the brand in cooperation with a big Lab, that created several brands that are known.

Instead of hiding the oh so great plan, it would be way easier to just say which lab that is. This is again just a "my friend's friend" type answer.

 

[Blitzschnell]

I might have been to quick with my response, you make a good and fair point. My assumption was that it's just the order itself, the purchase and payment history together with the address then remaining as part of the store credit system and discount system

Your point is valid in general. It would be safer to delete it with sending out the order. But it would end in mayhem, pissy customers and no control over the project.

In the darknet for example, drugdealers (the good ones), delete the data after sending. Transmission via Privnote etc, only. They safe only order number and tracking. But that would not work here, since people are not familiar with darknet opsec and other things.

 

[malomkarom]

You see you can have proper discussion and slowly improve your situation by simply addressing shit. This is getting better. Now we're talking to a teenager, not a child. Huge step forward. I'm slightly sarcastic with the insult.

You can have your own niche with certain risks for certain rewards. It's fine. But you have to address things and have to establish a trusted connection.

You've said you're sending shit for testing before, hasn't happened yet but it'll be a huge stepping stone when you post the results. Until then, you should just stay quiet about your bro having tested it. It is what it is, if you don't keep arrogantly dismissing the concers, we have nothing to get baited by. I don't bite if you don't give me something to munch.

Just don't take us for idiots is all we are asking basically.

 

[Sampei]

Your point is valid in general. It would be safer to delete it with sending out the order. But it would end in mayhem, pissy customers and no control over the project.

In the darknet for example, drugdealers (the good ones), delete the data after sending. Transmission via Privnote etc, only. They safe only order number and tracking. But that would not work here, since people are not familiar with darknet opsec and other things.

In the darknet unless we are talking bulk order almost no one expect reshipping if seized and there are third party holding funds between the seller and the buyer most of the time when buying on markets.

It's a whole different universe. Ppl here barely can use crypto xD

 

[Sampei]

This situation can be resolved very easily, just send product to test, post the results and act accordingly on what comes out from the testing done.

Nothing much that can be done except this.

 

[Blitzschnell]

But you are arrogant. Until you actually post the tests you've been promising for a while now, you even a liar on top of arrogant. I've worked long shifts my entire life. I know how it is. I've worked as a trainer too, I've always been an asshole boss to myself, that's doesn't prove or even just change anything. Shipping speed is still not a factor. You managed to skip the concern again, you've done that atleast 10 times by now.

Express shipping isn't safe. Period. No reships is also proof of that.

Im just pissed. Working hard and getting this response, from a person who did not even ordered from me, is quite frustrating. I will do those tests. You will see, that theres nothing to doubt. I will initiate this soon.

Please explain me why its not safe, if a customer orders, that i send the package on the same or next day? I mean im not using express Shipping, i just run this like a legal onlineshop, just with stealth packaging and other security measures. In my opinion it should not run otherwise and customers love the delivery time. Since i ordered from some of the competition, i know their stealth and can say that my stealth is on par with the best ones. And many dont even have a good stealth.

Looks and knowledge have nothing to do with eachother. There are olympians with surprisingly okay bloodworks. It's in very large majority genetic. Da fuck am I supposed to do with you not being a pro athlete wtf. Just dancing around the concerns again.

I dont know what you expect of me? Should every store owner should be a gold medal winner in Olympics? Come on bro. I just said that i know enough about the stuff that im selling, achieved my personal goals, different ones... I wanted to be massive, i was. I wanted to be shredded, i am 1-2kg before this. I tried out most substances, have personal opinion about them. Of course everyone reacting different. Some take 100mg Tren and cant sleep, i take 400mg and im just ranting against you, while sleeping wonderfully, without sweating even

Instead of hiding the oh so great plan, it would be way easier to just say which lab that is. This is again just a "my friend's friend" type answer.

The Brewer whos involved and also the lab dont want to be disclosed, so i guess its just like this. But i will do full Jano testing, includind heavy metals for Tren etc and sterility testing. If you find something to complain, i will fix this. Surely you will complain anyway, but i guess i have to live with this.

And also you should drink fresh mint tea and relax, dude if you have 41 fever. Also what really helps is just ginger. Unholy amounts mixed with fresh mint in tea, with honey. Just shut up and try and believe me atleast for once.

 

[Blitzschnell]

This situation can be resolved very easily, just send product to test, post the results and act accordingly on what comes out from the testing done.

Nothing much that can be done except this.

Said already i will do.

In the darknet unless we are talking bulk order almost no one expect reshipping if seized and there are third party holding funds between the seller and the buyer most of the time when buying on markets.

It's a whole different universe. Ppl here barely can use crypto xD

actually in the forums its quite expected from you to do so. Atleast the biggest sources do. And after reading about many busts, many did not comply their own rules. theres several examples.

Atleast i proofed so far, that theres no data over 21 days old on my backend. And since were not in CSI Miami, where they hack databases in 5 minutes, the moment they breached it, is the moment they have a nice and clean excel table to view at.

I agree fully on the crypto part tho Someone should write a entry tutorial on that.

 

[JabbedUp]

First of all, i hope you get better soon. Dont wish fever wiht 41 to anyone. Not even you, under this circumstances. Explains also why you are in a pretty bad mood.

We shipped our own gear to AB. I will send some more tests soon. Will proof that this is not bullshit.

Like i said, i did not sold any Primo of the 2000 vials ive ordered, since it was not in my last order, like it should. I replaced already many people that preordered it and payed me already. So thats not correct. It might have sounded arrogant how i said that before, but the truth is people just want to have it, no matter what. Its stupid, i agree.

If i would be open about security details of my site, it would not be secure. But following a 5 minute Youtube tutorial and how scan websites for weaknesses, and use this knowledge to scan 3 competitioners and me, would reveal that indeed my site is on a different level. So is the whole opsec around this operation. Tracking data is stored securely on the server. I have to do so, otherwise everyone could order from me and just say it did not arrive and i have to replace them. Also customers loose their data on a regular basis and expect me to know where their shipment is.

I will make such a tests, lets see those results. Dont call me arrogant, im just pissed about reading this accusations. I bet you would not react charming to this either, if you would be in my position. Im sitting here around 12 hours a day, trying to make everything as best as possible and then read that i should be a scammer - while customers write me how happy they are, that their package arrives 1 day after ordering from me.

Also i think if you take gear yourself close to 10 years and look great, without health issues - just the opposite, beeing very fit and sporty, gives you some knowledge you can pass. Also i never stated im any kind of professional athlete. I just look good and im sporty.

I dont even brew the final product. People who know better than me do. I would never come to the idea, to do this myself. When theres so much better people around for this. What im doing is finding products that are wanted. You will be quite surprised. And like said, im creating the brand in cooperation with a big Lab, that created several brands that are known.

Didn’t you claim you were coming out with your own line of products just yesterday?

Also I can’t find the quote and I’m in a rush but you also said that the responsibility of testing is on the manufacturer and not on you. I didn’t think you could get any more fucking retarded or irresponsible but here we are.
Either you are a colossal fucking idiot or a scamming scumbag. Whichever it is you don’t belong here.

 

[malomkarom]

Please explain me why its not safe, if a customer orders, that i send the package on the same or next day? I mean im not using express Shipping, i just run this like a legal onlineshop, just with stealth packaging. In my opinion it should not run otherwise and customers love the delivery time. Since i ordered from some of the competition, i know their stealth and can say that my stealth is on par with the best ones. And many dont even have a good stealth.

I can't find where you said the type of shipping you used and I couldn't be bothered right now to search so whatever. I'll give you that one. Might've been Stero, pretty sure it was you then again I can't find it.

I dont know what you expect of me? Should every store owner should be a gold medal winner in Olympics? Come on bro. I just said that i know enough about the stuff that im selling, achieved my personal goals, different ones... I wanted to be massive, i was. I wanted to be shredded, i am 1-2kg before this. I tried out most substances, have personal opinion about them. Of course everyone reacting different. Some take 100mg Tren and cant sleep, i take 400mg and im just ranting against you, while sleeping wonderfully, without sweating even

I expect you not to give almost surely (to multiple people) dangerous advice.
You've proven you aren't sharp in geartalk which is fine, as it turned out I'M not the sharpest either. Just don't hurt others you're selling to. Don't tell people how much to take, just let them buy. It's worse for business when people are calling you names than you just leaving the nouanced questions to people way more versed in the topic, there are both coaches and doctors here, some are active in the forums, some just have posts. Just direct people towards the search function or the appropriate subforums.

You don't have to know anything about gear to just resell. You just need to sell what you say is inside. You only know what's inside after testing it. There's no exceptions.

The tren would explain your attitude though. Been there, done that, arguing instead of reason is literally tren in a sentence.

IThe Brewer whos involved and also the lab dont want to be disclosed, so i guess its just like this. But i will do full Jano testing, includind heavy metals for Tren etc and sterility testing. If you find something to complain, i will fix this. Surely you will complain anyway, but i guess i have to live with this.

If the latter part happens, the first one couldn't be brought up anymore. As of now, until there's proof, it's a bathtub brew. Again, that is simply based on your attitude we've started with. I'm not sure whether you're faking this persona now, or you legit got caught off guard with the standards.

This is a respectable answer. Thank you, eagerly waiting for the results, will probably buy some shit if the tests go well, though I have to check for your shipping, I'm dead set on having read it and being shocked, hence me constantly bringing it up.

You might've edited or deleted posts mentioning it, which is again only a concern because of how this started.

I chewed 50g frew ginger in the past 8 hours. It's getting sickening actually. Pinned some test, been bleeding (not enough to soak a spot on my pants for the record) for 20 minutes now, this shit thins the blood like nothing else. Atleast there's less weight to cool down I guess.

I like using my free/sick time in a productive manner. I can't really enjoy shit anyways, I can barely see the screen but I can read and type. This is getting somewhere. Me laying in bed without this is no more comfortable.

Okay. I'm off for a while, I'm no longer outraged at you thinking we're gonna let you poison us. Great direction, keep it going and there's gonna be nothing we have to say.

 

[malomkarom]

Didn’t you claim you were coming out with your own line of products just yesterday?

He did first start by saying he's teaming up with a brewer tbf. I'm skeptical but he just said he's gonna do all tests we desire. I'm good with sterile, well dosed gear without heavy metals whoever brewed it. If it's g2g it's g2g. Let's wait and see. For now, I advise not ordering here for the last 30 pages but the sudden change is promising.

Look, he seems to see reason this time. Let's see where it goes. He might be lying, I have a feeling he is, but let's wait a *edit:bit cause it's ab not Jano so longer wait*, maybe we'll be shut up, or have ammunition for life.

 

[Blitzschnell]

Didn’t you claim you were coming out with your own line of products just yesterday?

Also I can’t find the quote and I’m in a rush but you also said that the responsibility of testing is on the manufacturer and not on you. I didn’t think you could get any more fucking retarded or irresponsible but here we are.
Either you are a colossal fucking idiot or a scamming scumbag. Whichever it is you don’t belong here.

I guess you got your facts wrong. I announced that quite some time ago. But i also announced that im doing this in coop with a big lab. After that, i found a brewer here, that opened my eyes quite a bit. So i involved him. Guess thats a good thing to do.

Also yes, i think that manufacturers should be primarely responsible for their product quality, but vendors should also test it. Thats why i did it.

 

[Blitzschnell]

He did first start by saying he's teaming up with a brewer tbf. I'm skeptical but he just said he's gonna do all tests we desire. I'm good with sterile, well dosed gear without heavy metals whoever brewed it. If it's g2g it's g2g. Let's wait and see. For now, I advise not ordering here for the last 30 pages but the sudden change is promising.

Look, he seems to see reason this time. Let's see where it goes. He might be lying, I have a feeling he is, but let's wait a week or so, maybe we'll be shut up, or have ammunition for life.

Please just let me proof you wrong.

Especially when it comes to the brand im creating with some really good people. If i fuck this up, i deserve all the hate you can give.