MESO-Rx
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MESO "Specialized" Testing Group Fund
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dinfar1337
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i've sent late 50 bucks for tren testing
Thank you. A man of your word!
We got that as an option (it is GSO if I read correctly) as well as the 10 year old vial of Tren (also GSO) from @Nixonnow99. We need to get him an answer as well so he can toss if no interest.
I got almost no votes on the latter.
We also have @Photon 's styrene testing project that will be super helpful.
The GCMS model benefits as well from any data we get along the way as another plus.
The fund is running, it has money, let's keep it going guys! I am proud of the progress and appreciate the community coming together for this.
Tdeck81
Banned
It’s my understanding styrene is a toxic/cancerous component of vinyl, plastic, rubber, etc
Is the @Photon testing to determine if styrene is the cause of color variance/causing degradation? It’s probably been discussed previously but just want clarity for people not following too closely, myself. Thanks
Potential leaching from bottletop filtration. Photon will chime in i hope.
Tdeck81
Banned
This is available, but the only .2 is nylon.
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Compatibility table
@Sampei
Do you have any recommendations for PTFE .2 PP bottletop filters?
(PS is clear plastic whereas PP is milky)
So I’m guessing this illustrates the issue fairly well. And I assume this isn’t exclusive to Tren, but affects most of the compounds we are using? Maybe we could broaden the MESO support base by highlighting range of the chosen projects?
Photon
Member
Majority of the US Dom vendors are using bottletop filters.
They are made up of a single piece of plastic + a filter membrane in the middle.
Vast majority of bottle-top filters are made of polystyrene.
It is cheap, easy to source and comes sterilized.
It does not make sense for most dom vendors to upgrade as they do not sell liters of oil like the Chinese.
Polystyrene melts/leeches when it comes in contact with MCT or BB or BA.
It is a clear plastic, even if it melts into your oil, you wont see it and it won't affect the mg/ml significantly.
30 minutes at 50 C when exposed to BA/BB
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acssuschemeng.3c08154
In addition to the plastic leeching, the filters used may also dissolve when exposed to BA/BB.
PVDF filters can only be used for low BB solutions.
PTFE is best, but can be difficult to source.
Nylon is in between.
Higher concentration/solvent gear like SUS500/T500/TRE400/TNE/Inj Orals etc need better filters (PTFE), else you end up with both melted plastic (Polystyrene) and filters.
The project involves
(1) Working with Jano to come up with a test to detect melted polystyrene (maybe melted filters as well?)
(2) Collecting US Dom gear and sending it for testing.
Unfortunately due to personal reasons, I will not be running the project.
If someone else is interested, they may lead it else we can scrap the idea.
I will help out with (1) -- I plan to send TRE400 for polystyrene detection in a week or two when my raws arrive.
dinfar1337
New Member
indeed, it would probably be best to ask mr janoshik himself if he can specalize in this kind of testing or we have to find lab for us that specializes in this kind of thing.
think its pretty hard to compare anavar to microplastics
Photon
Member
I think he can, I'll send in polystyrene dissolved in BA/BB which he can use as a reference, when i sent in my vial for testing. We'll know in a few weeks i guess.
dinfar1337
New Member
sounds good with a early baseline.
ofc its interesting to know the dangers of injecting micro plastics and have them eventually swarm your organs. just by eating them we get cancer.
i think what im trying to say if you start this project you need to establish a clear goal of accomplishment for harm reduction for people like me who dont have alot of chemical knowledge
ofc its interesting to know the dangers of injecting micro plastics and have them eventually swarm your organs. just by eating them we get cancer.
i think what im trying to say if you start this project you need to establish a clear goal of accomplishment for harm reduction for people like me who dont have alot of chemical knowledge
You made pretty quick fucking work of that Test ester -ene variant stuff. You ain't fooling me big boy.
dinfar1337
New Member
please dont say that, it was just something simple that was overlooked
Reminder to make it easy in case anyone wants to audit.
Current group fund address:
https://mempool.space/address/bc1qysw55r2nxy5rwszf96ztfzpasaayykhyqyxhkr
Original account:
https://mempool.space/address/bc1quuxthxhngj9fswm45g0s7cj0cf5qxvmrdpg8f5
Current group fund address:
https://mempool.space/address/bc1qysw55r2nxy5rwszf96ztfzpasaayykhyqyxhkr
Original account:
https://mempool.space/address/bc1quuxthxhngj9fswm45g0s7cj0cf5qxvmrdpg8f5
Here I will help since your research skills are lacking. I already shared this with you so you must be acting willfully ignorant.
You are mad because I found that this source was improperly sterilizing equipment and should get an autoclave. Understood.
The key question is why you are upset about it. Why?
TallandSmall
Member
Just sent a random $20 to the fund since I don't care if we find anything groundbreaking or not. I just hope we do another test. I find it interesting regardless.
If "phenominal" had any ethics he would pay 20 bucks into the fund every time posted. Forum pollution fee.
AlexDavis43
Member
You'd be broke in 5 minutes with all the GIFs and irrelevant posts linking to your own threads, considering total posts per day
*if not already broke (not judging if so)
slice and dice this reply as you please
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