Ghoul
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Congrats man! One and done! And didn't cost the you the typical $7500 price of treatment in the US.
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Congrats man! One and done! And didn't cost the you the typical $7500 price of treatment in the US.
explodingHeart
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My skin was pristine until I used hgh, now it's peppered with little dark marks where acne appeared and sadly only on my delts.
Can I use TCA peel to even out the color? It's fairly thick and resilient skin in that area. I'm white and don't get keloids. Any advice?
Liter O' Test
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Pulsed dye laser (VBEAM) will do it or you can try 20% azelaic acid
What moisturizer is everyone using while on the 'TANE
usually don't use any on the 'TANE but this time im using nuetrogena hydroboost water gel and the ordinary HA serum and misting myself with distilled water like a KPOP star
I'm also doing 100mg HA orally (I read there are different weights of HA so the type might be very important)
and I'm using Dr Dans Cortibalm chapstick
Congrats on getting it done so quickly. Outside of the doubling of the last few doses, what was the max consistent dose you ended up at?
I'm only a few weeks in but looking to accelerate things along so long as I can handle the sides.
Ghoul
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.1% retinol applied daily for 8 weeks was found to lighten inflammation hyperpigmentation by 60%.
Mike-Larry
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does A-RET 0.1% 20GM GEL help with mild acne? Buying accutane but thought i would throw this in the basket if it would help before using the harsh stuff?
explodingHeart
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I think he meant simply to resurface discolored / pigmented skin from healed acne. On it's own it won't do fuck all for steroid acne.
Edit: Also used to increase collagen synthesis, facial anti-aging, etc.
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Thanks man, you were essential to this. Really appreciate all your anecdotes and advice.
I spent nearly the entire course at 200mg a day. Only 26 days were spent at a different dose to 200mg. The majority of those were in the early days when I was titrating up, and there are a handful of days where I actually went above, the two days at 400 last week, and a random day at 320 early-ish which I did so I could just get through a pack of 40mg every 2 days.
Sides wise I had a little bit of joint and back pain early doors but that subsided before I hit 200mg. The only side effect that was consistent and frequent were dry lips. Aquaphor was my saviour. I bought way too much of the stuff (4 tubs of it), and kept one in virtually every room I'd be in frequently at home. I even bought the little mini tubes for if I was going to be out.
I could basically get through a gym session without having to re apply it but more than around 2 hours away from home and I'd need to reapply it.
I bought products to deal with some of the other sides in here and never needed them, stuff like eye demister and never ended up having the sides at all.
I purged around 2 weeks in at the worst but it went away, had 1 or 2 smaller purges later on.
I was wary of doing it during summer as I play an outdoor sport but 50 SPF sunscreen as I would anyway saw no issues whatsoever for me.
The only other notable points were sometimes I'd occasionally have some dry skin on my face, solved after showering and moisturising.
I think that covers most of it to be honest.
Don't forget to have a meal containing 20g of fat for each consumption of accutane. I know a lot in here split dose between morning and evening but I just took it all at once. I dieted aggressively for a month during the course so I'd have 3 eggs and some other stuff for the meal that is during my accutane consumption, gonna be nice not having to think about that again.
Any other questions give me a shout but to be honest I just followed a lot of principles in here and the only difference is I was fortunate to have a lot of tolerance to sides so could dose a little higher.
Good luck!
trianglechump
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Just reading that made my b-hole itch. Good lord I wish I could tolerate it like that, at 40mg I felt like dragging my ass across the floor like a dog with worms.
View: https://giphy.com/gifs/dog-dragging-Gytz24581HuLK
Haha, I'm not sure how I got so lucky really.
One last note @ImSW1. I got bloodwork done after 5 weeks of being on 200mg a day. My ALT was elevated as you'd imagine but my GGT was fine and perfectly in range. So despite the high dosage I'm pretty sure it's no biggie liver wise long term.
Thanks for all the information, truly appreciated. I'm getting ready for my usual labs soon.
I'm at 280mg a day right now, split into two doses of 140mg morning and evening. Lips are extremely dry but manageable with Aquaphor, skin is dry but manageable. I've have minor joint pain, but I have sciatica and the main pain points are in the normal areas that it usually manifests, except elbows. The joint pain is also managable. So far I've been very lucky with sides.
I'm going to sit at 280mg per day for the remainder of the time as long as sides don't flare.
Photon
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Personally I'd stay on maybe 100mg a day for another month or two..but it's entirely up to you.
Accutane degrades rapidly under heat and given how it comes from India (really hot), it'd err on the side of some of it having degraded and take more than necessary.
For reference, the ones i bought from Sun Pharma were tested at roughly 20% under, maybe from degradation (idk) but it would mean I would have to take 20% more to hit the target dose.
I did not experience much sides and neither did you, but this may be due to it having degraded and thus you were taking a lower effective dose, and not that we have high tolerance.
Ghoul
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True.
Spring for the good, soft toilet paper.
If two gentle wipes doesn't do it, give up and take a shower.
It's not just the lips on your face that shred easily while on accutane lol,
Butthole is still intact thanks to wet wipes.
Thanks again to all of those that came before; @Ghoul etc. Being able to prepare and put all the pieces together before starting has been immeasurable.
You're welcome. Like that, I did actually ponder going above 200mg a few weeks ago but just thought I'd roll with it as it was so tolerable. All the power to you if you can roll with it. What cumulative dose are you aiming for and where are you currently at?
Hey man, yeah that is a very valid possibility and I do have some tabs left. I haven't had any breakouts for weeks though so I'll probably just stay off it for now and just use a really low dose for when and if anything else arises in future. For now I'm just looking forward to not having dry lips in the near future and I'm going to be in vacation for half a month in two weeks so it'll be nice to be off.
Photon
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I did my cycle @ really high doses too, 260mg/day.
But if I factor in the 20% degradation, it's probably only 200mg/day.
Minimal sides too.
I'm just at baby steps. I've been on exactly 14 days today and will hit 2960mg this evening. I'm going to stay at 280mg per day from here on out until I'm done.
I have to get to 23,600mg to hit 220mg/per kg (107kg). I have a very long way to go, but its worth the try, especially since sides aren't horrible right now.
AllbrandNew
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As someone who was doing 40mg/day for 10 days and very recently bumped up to 80mg when the sides leveled off, I would prob die at the 200mg dosages you all can manage right now. Lips are dry and face is super dry, to the point that even moisturizer every hour or two isn't keeping my skin from flaking. Started getting some pain in my lower back but can't say if it's related. My joints are shit anyways so nothing new to report there..
Accidentally was in the sun for a bit too long the other day too (cloudy day, wasn't thinking) and I paid for that a bit too.
I do appreciate all the info in the thread, and while I was planning to get to 100mg/kg, I think I may need to stock up again when possible and aim for the 200mg/kg cumulative dose.
Accidentally was in the sun for a bit too long the other day too (cloudy day, wasn't thinking) and I paid for that a bit too.
I do appreciate all the info in the thread, and while I was planning to get to 100mg/kg, I think I may need to stock up again when possible and aim for the 200mg/kg cumulative dose.
Photon
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Always put into consideration that the gelcaps need to be stored at low temperatures, not achievable by India vendors, simply due to how hot India is. It also gets really hot when it gets shipped when in the vehicle.
This results in product degradation, and therefore if possible, err on the side of caution and target a higher cumulative dose.
This results in product degradation, and therefore if possible, err on the side of caution and target a higher cumulative dose.
Ghoul
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I hope the sides lighten up (they usually do when at the same dose for a while).
The worst side for me was lower back, SI joint aches (which I had in the past). Glad
to report after finishing it completely went away
But the data shows whether it takes 4 months or 2 years, it's the cumulative
total that determines the outcome, so do it at your own pace. I was motivated to get it over with as soon as possible, but couldn't tolerate over 160 for long, and extended the time it took to hit cumulative dose by a few weeks with a lower dose to make it easier.
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