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[OEP LABS]

Total purity is pretty good, 99%.
But it feels dishonest, i think they swapped it out knowingly, to a raw that doesn't have high demand for, is much cheaper and needs much more solvents to use (TNE). On the plus side..at least they used TNE and not roadside dust.

Valid points and will be taken into account

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I'd seek some sort of compensation from the vendor, but I'd also brew/buy/pin the fuck out of that. The long/short of cyp/NE is a strange combo, so it'd have to be a daily for me, but fuck it, at least it's 99%. Mix it up as a limited batch, @OEP LABS , just make sure the customer knows what it is.

Appreciate your input and I agree. On the pastebin, so that all are in the know, it will be disclosed. The Pastenbin will be modified later today. Thank you sir.

 

[newguy2]

@newguy2 as promised notifying you sir

EQ raw is from China.

Test Enanthate raw from China

Test Cyp batch A6 India

Tren E raw from India

HPLC raw reports below. I did 6-7% overdose tolerance for EQ as history has it, can test low for in regards to purity. The remaining hormones did a 3-4% tolerance OD for target.

Several factors can affect purity from my experience, such as shelf life, Sunlight, location of storage, can decrease the potency of the hormone. Each one can be corrected by either adding more material or reducing the carrier by tolerance of 8~9%.

The GCMS and HPLC report for Test Cyp is still pending, no rush on the Jano team. Glad they can provide us with reports and fast service. Reports attached.

We will be testing everything for Target HPLC. In my opinion I’m confident I can nail it or slightly be
Under 3-4%. Please your input is appreciate how I should proceed

Thanks for the ping. I didn't realize India raws were in play. Thanks for the clarification.

Strange with the TNE. I can't imagine that will have any real world impact on the user. Maybe a little if you pinned a ml or more?

I have a handful of those. Guess this is what happens when you buy without testing available.

Thanks for the transparency.

 

[Photon]

I'd seek some sort of compensation from the vendor, but I'd also brew/buy/pin the fuck out of that. The long/short of cyp/NE is a strange combo, so it'd have to be a daily for me, but fuck it, at least it's 99%. Mix it up as a limited batch, @OEP LABS , just make sure the customer knows what it is.

You could probably just treat it as normal CYP tbh.
TNE will clear the body in hours.
It's used for PWO.

So you pin, get a spike, then all that's left is CYP.
At 5%, 1g is only 50mg, that's lesser than what some use for PWO lol

 

[DraxTheDestroyer]

TNE is one of my favorites. Count me in on a few of those vials lol

 

[sionnach]

You could probably just treat it as normal CYP tbh.
TNE will clear the body in hours.
It's used for PWO.

So you pin, get a spike, then all that's left is CYP.
At 5%, 1g is only 50mg, that's lesser than what some use for PWO lol

Yeah you're right

 

[AbsoluteKnight]

TNE is one of my favorites. Count me in on a few of those vials lol

I love pinning before a workout to get blood flowing anyway this seems like a win in my book I love funky mixes like this honestly so same here hahaha

 

[readalot]

@newguy2 as promised notifying you sir

EQ raw is from China.

Test Enanthate raw from China

Test Cyp batch A6 India

Tren E raw from India

HPLC raw reports below. I did 6-7% overdose tolerance for EQ as history has it, can test low for in regards to purity. The remaining hormones did a 3-4% tolerance OD for target.

Several factors can affect purity from my experience, such as shelf life, Sunlight, location of storage, can decrease the potency of the hormone. Each one can be corrected by either adding more material or reducing the carrier by tolerance of 8~9%.

The GCMS and HPLC report for Test Cyp is still pending, no rush on the Jano team. Glad they can provide us with reports and fast service. Reports attached.

We will be testing everything for Target HPLC. In my opinion I’m confident I can nail it or slightly be
Under 3-4%. Please your input is appreciate how I should proceed

Thank you for the raws purity testing.

 

[OEP LABS]

Thank you for the raws purity testing.

yessir, I want to be fully transparent. With that said incoming secure anabolic pigeon message coming your way

That goes for my clients as well. Send me secure email or message. 5 more samples leave in approx 1.5hrs

 

[readalot]

yessir, I want to be fully transparent. With that said incoming secure anabolic pigeon message coming your way

Sorry. That one got closed. For further support I recommend the phenominal helpline. He is the knowledgable senior veteran OG big dog.

Take care Sir.







PS: j/k. Hope you are doing well.

 

[OEP LABS]

Sorry. That one got closed. For further support I recommend the phenominal helpline. He is the knowledgable senior veteran OG big dog.

Take care Sir.







PS: j/k. Hope you are doing well.

Took you too serious emailed several active clients as well as you lol. Gassing up the anabolic pigeon be right back

 

[Ateam2023]

Sorry. That one got closed. For further support I recommend the phenominal helpline. He is the knowledgable senior veteran OG big dog.

Take care Sir.







PS: j/k. Hope you are doing well.

way to go "continuing the feud" , i guess the "entertainment" was getting lax , jab whenever the opportunity comes ...Are you on the Tren yet?

 

[readalot]

way to go "continuing the feud" , i guess the "entertainment" was getting lax , jab whenever the opportunity comes ...Are you on the Tren yet?

Feud? What feud? Trying to get OEP some knowledgeable help.

Tren? Hell no. Barely on Test at the moment.

 

[bigdaddyandfriends]

Interesting the ultimate "TRT" is a mix of mostly esterified test (ie cyp or enanthate) with a little added TNE. Given daily in the morning this is the way to mimic the diurnal rhythm of healthy young mens' testosterone levels - they are about 30% higher in the morning than evening. As we age and levels tend to drop, that diurnal rhythm flattens out and becomes more like the ester-only curve.

I now use a tiny bit of TNE daily myself, after finding some from another source here that is made w/o guaiacol or EO. It's in Mig840 and only 50mg/ml yet still crashes frequently at room temp, so it goes on a mug warmer daily before drawing it up.

I don't see 5% TNE as a bad thing at all, and actually somewhat of a positive, as long as does not crystallize out. Count me in for some!

 

[Avies48]

if EQ (or a metabolite) is a non-competitive AI it will work with trestolone, it aromatizes exactly the same as testosterone just with lower efficiency but into a more potent (synthetic) estrogen. If competitive it will work but with reduced efficiency at typical dosages.

The anabolic:androgenic ratio is borderline worthless for various reasons (a major one being use of the levator ani muscle rather than a muscle that actually can be overloaded/stressed). But if one were to have an anabolic:androgenic:estrogenic ratio with test being 100:100:100, trestolone would be about 2300:650:200. High doses sound perfect here… but anabolism maxes out at a fairly low dosage, beyond which you just accumulate more androgenicity/estrogenicity. This is true with basically all high potency androgens. Thst’s why no one can use metribolone or mibolerone to grow - the anabolism gives way to side effects at exceeding low (mcg) dosages. And this is why using MENT at > 25-35/mg per usually ends in failure. For most 5-10mg/day is the ‘sweet spot’, elite bodybuilders with very high muscle mass being an exception. For replacement therapy (which few here are really interested in) 2-3mg/day is plenty!

Interestingly trestolone’s sister compound Trenbolone is always specified as 500:500. But - that is referenced not to testosterone, but to nandrolone in Llewelyn’s book. So trenbolone is similar to nandrolone at 5x potency… referenced back to testosterone, nandrolone @ 125:37 x5 = 625:185, which I and I think most trenbolone users would likely agree with. Not that I would recommend it, but either could be used to better effect by women bodybuilders compared to testosterone. I personally like 5mg ea per day on a cruise.

So yes testosterone is natural and good/healthy at HRT levels, particularly when we’re young and our bodies can ideally balance androgens/estrogens. Problem is taking larger amounts to build or maintain lean body mass results in excessive estrogen and/or DHT; or as we age, estrogen/androgen ratio becomes dysregulated. Test is the only compound that creates DHT, which is unique; the so-called DHT derivatives are all completely different in how they act in the body - basically as a non-aromatizing, typically weakened androgen that cannot be converted in a tissue specific manner to either a useless androgen (skeletal muscle) or highly potentiated androgen (prostate and skin appendages ie hair follicles and sebaceous glands).

Too much estrogen and DHT is a recipe for prostate cancer, they act in synergy in conjunction with SHBG-RSHBG, which is why I prefer keep my test levels low being older… a major part of my day job is reading mpMRI and PSMA PET scans, and I see our natural hormones play a major role in development of cancer as we age and estrogen levels rise. Most new diagnosis patients have gyno and estrogenic body habitus; I’ve yet to see a case in a younger muscular man with naturally high androgen and lower estrogen levels - natural or not.

Fuck so if my dht levels are super high i may be leaning more towards prostate cancer??

I just got my dht tested and have touched nothing other than a test shot and my estrogens went super high (compared to what they normally are) and my dht was super high and havent touched anything in over 10 yrs prior to my last test shot…

 

[Photon]

Interesting the ultimate "TRT" is a mix of mostly esterified test (ie cyp or enanthate) with a little added TNE. Given daily in the morning this is the way to mimic the diurnal rhythm of healthy young mens' testosterone levels - they are about 30% higher in the morning than evening. As we age and levels tend to drop, that diurnal rhythm flattens out and becomes more like the ester-only curve.

I now use a tiny bit of TNE daily myself, after finding some from another source here that is made w/o guaiacol or EO. It's in Mig840 and only 50mg/ml yet still crashes frequently at room temp, so it goes on a mug warmer daily before drawing it up.

I don't see 5% TNE as a bad thing at all, and actually somewhat of a positive, as long as does not crystallize out. Count me in for some!

It needs to be a morning shot tho.
I'd rather the flexibility of being able to add some TNE.

 

[newguy2]

@newguy2 as promised notifying you sir

EQ raw is from China.

Test Enanthate raw from China

Test Cyp batch A6 India

Tren E raw from India

HPLC raw reports below. I did 6-7% overdose tolerance for EQ as history has it, can test low for in regards to purity. The remaining hormones did a 3-4% tolerance OD for target.

Several factors can affect purity from my experience, such as shelf life, Sunlight, location of storage, can decrease the potency of the hormone. Each one can be corrected by either adding more material or reducing the carrier by tolerance of 8~9%.

The GCMS and HPLC report for Test Cyp is still pending, no rush on the Jano team. Glad they can provide us with reports and fast service. Reports attached.

We will be testing everything for Target HPLC. In my opinion I’m confident I can nail it or slightly be
Under 3-4%. Please your input is appreciate how I should proceed

So sounds like we'll still get test for the finished oil of the Cyp a6 batch?

 

[AllGoodThings]

Interesting the ultimate "TRT" is a mix of mostly esterified test (ie cyp or enanthate) with a little added TNE. Given daily in the morning this is the way to mimic the diurnal rhythm of healthy young mens' testosterone levels - they are about 30% higher in the morning than evening. As we age and levels tend to drop, that diurnal rhythm flattens out and becomes more like the ester-only curve.

I now use a tiny bit of TNE daily myself, after finding some from another source here that is made w/o guaiacol or EO. It's in Mig840 and only 50mg/ml yet still crashes frequently at room temp, so it goes on a mug warmer daily before drawing it up.

I don't see 5% TNE as a bad thing at all, and actually somewhat of a positive, as long as does not crystallize out. Count me in for some!

Great info from you as usual

I have some of the same TNE you do, and what I did was warm it on a mug warmer, then once it's fully in solution, I transfer it to a baby wipe warmer. I got the idea from another member here recently, can't remember who otherwise I'd give him credit. It's a great way to keep it warm and prevent it from crashing again. Very convenient.

 

[sionnach]

It needs to be a morning shot tho.
I'd rather the flexibility of being able to add some TNE.

If you never sleep, it's always morning, if you want it to be.

 

[Photon]

if EQ (or a metabolite) is a non-competitive AI it will work with trestolone, it aromatizes exactly the same as testosterone just with lower efficiency but into a more potent (synthetic) estrogen. If competitive it will work but with reduced efficiency at typical dosages.

The anabolic:androgenic ratio is borderline worthless for various reasons (a major one being use of the levator ani muscle rather than a muscle that actually can be overloaded/stressed). But if one were to have an anabolic:androgenic:estrogenic ratio with test being 100:100:100, trestolone would be about 2300:650:200. High doses sound perfect here… but anabolism maxes out at a fairly low dosage, beyond which you just accumulate more androgenicity/estrogenicity. This is true with basically all high potency androgens. Thst’s why no one can use metribolone or mibolerone to grow - the anabolism gives way to side effects at exceeding low (mcg) dosages. And this is why using MENT at > 25-35/mg per usually ends in failure. For most 5-10mg/day is the ‘sweet spot’, elite bodybuilders with very high muscle mass being an exception. For replacement therapy (which few here are really interested in) 2-3mg/day is plenty!

Interestingly trestolone’s sister compound Trenbolone is always specified as 500:500. But - that is referenced not to testosterone, but to nandrolone in Llewelyn’s book. So trenbolone is similar to nandrolone at 5x potency… referenced back to testosterone, nandrolone @ 125:37 x5 = 625:185, which I and I think most trenbolone users would likely agree with. Not that I would recommend it, but either could be used to better effect by women bodybuilders compared to testosterone. I personally like 5mg ea per day on a cruise.

So yes testosterone is natural and good/healthy at HRT levels, particularly when we’re young and our bodies can ideally balance androgens/estrogens. Problem is taking larger amounts to build or maintain lean body mass results in excessive estrogen and/or DHT; or as we age, estrogen/androgen ratio becomes dysregulated. Test is the only compound that creates DHT, which is unique; the so-called DHT derivatives are all completely different in how they act in the body - basically as a non-aromatizing, typically weakened androgen that cannot be converted in a tissue specific manner to either a useless androgen (skeletal muscle) or highly potentiated androgen (prostate and skin appendages ie hair follicles and sebaceous glands).

Too much estrogen and DHT is a recipe for prostate cancer, they act in synergy in conjunction with SHBG-RSHBG, which is why I prefer keep my test levels low being older… a major part of my day job is reading mpMRI and PSMA PET scans, and I see our natural hormones play a major role in development of cancer as we age and estrogen levels rise. Most new diagnosis patients have gyno and estrogenic body habitus; I’ve yet to see a case in a younger muscular man with naturally high androgen and lower estrogen levels - natural or not.

Interesting writeup as always.
EQ i believe, does aromatizes, however it doesn't raise e2, instead if floods the body with E1 (which i believe is weaker?), which prevents E2 from rising. I got my pre-blast E1 values, I plan to pull it again during my last week of blast, just to see how much it moved.

This is my labwork with 1g test and 1g eq. With a 50% aromatize rate, you'd expect the e2 to be that of 1+0.5*1=1.5g Test. On the contrary, my e2 was completely crashed.

Post in thread 'USA Discounted Blood work'

Sep 3, 2025

E2 on 1g Test/EQ


80mg/week of Trest D seems to work.
I don't know where that puts me on E2 tho, since Trest E2 doesn't appear on labs.

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I do see your stance tho on e2 and dht. I think i might just avoid any DHT derivatives going forward, it doesn't seem to be worth the hassle.

 

[Matty_G]

Great info from you as usual

I have some of the same TNE you do, and what I did was warm it on a mug warmer, then once it's fully in solution, I transfer it to a baby wipe warmer. I got the idea from another member here recently, can't remember who otherwise I'd give him credit. It's a great way to keep it warm and prevent it from crashing again. Very convenient.
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Buy a baby wipe warmer, keep all your oils your currently using in it. Keeps the TNE nice and suspended and your oils nice and warm for smooth shots.

It was @dick_starbuck who mentioned it. Solid advice as my TNE from that source was crashing daily as well.