Fuck yes! We have another @readalot crusade! The heavy metals thing went nowhere, the tren clarity thing went nowhere; I'm glad I'm here at ground zero for......what is it now? Crimping.
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phenominal34
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DoubleDeez
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His Tren color crusade got Primal to brew an entire special light-colored batch of Tren 75, and there’s more to come. I wouldn’t exactly say that went nowhere, it pretty much sold out in seconds.
BamaCrazy
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That was only good for Primal. lol He made more money. There’s no difference between Primal’s 75 and their 100 except color which means nothing at all.
johnydrama
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DoubleDeez
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I think the jury is still out on that. Idk. I’m thankful we have some nerdy bois in here who ask questions or propose how to make things better, instead of just passively accepting shit as it is. Especially when we are talking about things we are putting into our bodies. Developing higher standards is never a bad thing. There are things I never would’ve even considered, like stopper quality for longterm storage, that I now care about, and have higher expectations for going forward.
This is not accurate. We (as a collective human race) understand what color means chemically. Just cant quantify it in this case given the instruments are our disposal with Jano and the fact tren is scheduled drug. If we could send sample to say Eurofins you can be pretty sure we would quantify what chemical species are imparting the color and at what concentrations.
When Jano gets the NMR I will be sure to let you know so we can determine if today's tren raws on the market are racemic.
BamaCrazy
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So you are saying that there is a difference between Primal’s 75 and 100 when it comes to purity or safety? That you have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Tren color matters in some significant way.
Negative. You made a definitive statement and said it means nothing at all.
I am saying the matter is still unresolved and I don't know the difference when it comes to purity and safety. We know there is a color difference and hence a chemical difference. How much it matters to purity and safety? I don't know. I don't make definitive statements without the data.
That's why we do experiments. Hence you make a hypothesis and do the testing. Science and shit ya know.
PiscesMoon
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RockyP
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dead on balls accurate. love to see it especially with tren.
Photon
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The best thing to do is refiter all your vials into USP rated vials which use proper pharma grade materials. You don't really know what UGL vendors use or if they're brewing in their bathtub, you're just taking their word for it and injecting it. Vendors can simply use ChatGPT to answer any questions asked, with the best possible answers, which is also why I stopped asking questions.
10 vials filtered into a 100 ml vial, with 1ml sent to Jano for testing can last a really long time.
This applies to all UGL vendors. Alot of stuff..cannot be tested for at a reasonable cost, unfortunately. It will never be pharma grade.
If you are going to say this then there is absolutely no reason to push vendors to improve standards when it comes to hardware.
No point in giving members whiplash. I will stop any further advocacy on these improvements. Lump domestic vendors in with the cheap Chinese oils if you want. But we will never have nice things.
Still don't understand why you won't lead the styrene testing project.
RockyP
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I'd take some Mast E in a styrofoam cup if they have it. I'll crimp it myself.
Photon
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There is a reason to upgrade hw, because most are not going to be refiltering and they can benefit from it. In fact, i wager majority of the people purchasing will benefit from it.
I'm not leading the project because my goal is to minimize any vendor bought gear, I just feel it's the only way to control the quality of what I inject. I have raws coming..and if it tests out good, I probably won't be using vendor bought gear anymore..
It's exhausting fighting with vendors and even forum members to push for change, I'm sure you understand, half the time you're fighting with someone about it lol. Even a simply change of a crimp that's less than 10c gets backlash.
AllbrandNew
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Not directly relevant, but the lower concentration was interesting to me as I could dip a toe in and also use it to dilute a stronger test base at the same time.
Still missed the drop though, but I have a ways to go before peeking at the demons anyways.
Photon
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A 50ml vial of pharma MCT is less than 20 bucks. You can use it to dilute anything you want and the oil quality is probably better than what vendors use.
You just draw it up in a syringe like your usual oils.
BamaCrazy
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The demons have been good to me this second time around. Night sweats and some heartburn but 4 weeks in I’m pretty pleased with Primal’s Tren A 100.
AllbrandNew
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100%. (I saved the link you posted a bit ago for the MCT should I need it in the future.) In this case, the lower concentration gives me a little more flexibility with starting a low weekly dose, with the benefit of being able to also use the volume to dilute like I mentioned.
I'm kind of volume adverse, so keeping the oil volumes low is of great personal benefit.
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