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AllGoodThings said:
Not sure if you got caught up on the thread, but he's been outed as a Chinese oil reseller. I'd stay away. I only had a little prop from him from before his grand reopening, but that crap is getting frozen and stored for the apocalypse/when I run out of literally all other test.
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A fair amount of your domestic good bro’s slinging gear are also Chinese oil resellers. For all you connoisseurs of gear who think you are taking the pure manna of us made gear, you probably aren’t.
 
nidnoy said:
A fair amount of your domestic good bro’s slinging gear are also Chinese oil resellers. For all you connoisseurs of gear who think you are taking the pure manna of us made gear, you probably aren’t.
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I see this claim a lot, yet I don't see much to back it up. I'm not saying you're wrong, it just doesn't get proven often, as it did with Devon here. My go to sources are Stanford, OEP, and Arail. I'm as positive as I can be without witnessing firsthand the brewing of each batch that those guys aren't reselling Chinese oils. Arail makes some awesome stuff in Mig840 that crashes easily because there are no super solvents. Chinese equivalents of these products are loaded with EO and guaiacol. I've got a good amount of oils from Opti as well, and I don't think he has EO or low quality MCT in his products either. I trust their gear, but can't speak to other sellers here, so you may be right about them. I do have my suspicions about a few of them, so I stay away. I don't like EO and I don't like the low quality MCT China uses, but I don't think that makes me a snob.
 
AllGoodThings said:
I see this claim a lot, yet I don't see much to back it up. My go to sources are Stanford, OEP, and Arail. I'm as positive as I can be without witnessing firsthand the brewing of each batch that those guys aren't reselling Chinese oils. Arail makes some awesome stuff in Mig840 that crashes easily because three are no super solvents. Chinese equivalents of these products are loaded with EO and guaiacol. I've got a good amount of oils from Opti as well, and I don't think he has EO or low quality MCT in his products either. I trust their gear, but can't speak to other sellers here, so you may be right about them. I do have my suspicions about a few of them, so I stay away. I don't like EO and I don't like the low quality MCT China uses, but I don't think that makes me a snob.
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Can’t go wrong with those 3
 
ZaddyZonar said:
GCMS testing doesn’t lie
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Bump.

eye lord GIF
 
AllGoodThings said:
I see this claim a lot, yet I don't see much to back it up. I'm not saying you're wrong, it just doesn't get proven often, as it did with Devon here. My go to sources are Stanford, OEP, and Arail. I'm as positive as I can be without witnessing firsthand the brewing of each batch that those guys aren't reselling Chinese oils. Arail makes some awesome stuff in Mig840 that crashes easily because there are no super solvents. Chinese equivalents of these products are loaded with EO and guaiacol. I've got a good amount of oils from Opti as well, and I don't think he has EO or low quality MCT in his products either. I trust their gear, but can't speak to other sellers here, so you may be right about them. I do have my suspicions about a few of them, so I stay away. I don't like EO and I don't like the low quality MCT China uses, but I don't think that makes me a snob.
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MIG840 is propylene glycol. That might be just as bad or worse than EO
 
mongo5165 said:
MIG840 is propylene glycol. That might be just as bad or worse than EO
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EO is used by some US manufacturers for progesterone injections as well as widely used in the EU. If you tolerate it in terms of injection site reactions and not driving up your CRP / inflammatory markers the demonization is overblown
 
mongo5165 said:
MIG840 is propylene glycol. That might be just as bad or worse than EO
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Miglyol 840

Miglyol 840 | C39H80O10 | CID 53471835 - structure, chemical names, physical and chemical properties, classification, patents, literature, biological activities, safety/hazards/toxicity information, supplier lists, and more.
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a propylene glycol diester of saturated vegetable fatty acids (C8-C10 chain lengths)
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Essentially an "MCT" with PG instead of glycerol tying the C8 and C10 fatty acids together.
 
BamaCrazy said:
EO doesn’t affect me at all. Miglyol 840 is nothing like EO. That’s the worst pip I’ve ever had. My quad felt like a bull tap-danced on it. I couldn’t squat for over a week.
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Funny how differently people react to different things. I took 3.5ml of mig840 daily for a while, no pip whatsoever
 
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FastBun said:
You clearly don’t brew… you don’t know shit about brewing … or the guy you claim brews… I’m sure you are just buying finished liters or oils and filling vials… most of your vials are unevenly filled… goes to show you don’t even use a bottle top dispenser… trash… cutting corners… no flow hood either… but cheap gear always sells…
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Hey Fastbun, this is the brewer for Noxy. What's your actual question, or are you just trying to be annoying by spamming us? You're correct; we don't use a bottle-top dispenser - that's for amateurs. I do use a semi-automatic peristaltic pump, which might...
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"What other brewing questions would you like me to answer? Maybe about the ethanol content? It's less than 2%, so it wasn't freezing in customers' mailboxes - I think that's more than acceptable. If we were to sell finished oils from China, the ethanol percentage would be 50%. So, in fact, I do make all our oils and tablets."

Ethanol, EO.

Tomato, tomatoe.
 
AllGoodThings said:
I see this claim a lot, yet I don't see much to back it up. I'm not saying you're wrong, it just doesn't get proven often, as it did with Devon here. My go to sources are Stanford, OEP, and Arail. I'm as positive as I can be without witnessing firsthand the brewing of each batch that those guys aren't reselling Chinese oils. Arail makes some awesome stuff in Mig840 that crashes easily because there are no super solvents. Chinese equivalents of these products are loaded with EO and guaiacol. I've got a good amount of oils from Opti as well, and I don't think he has EO or low quality MCT in his products either. I trust their gear, but can't speak to other sellers here, so you may be right about them. I do have my suspicions about a few of them, so I stay away. I don't like EO and I don't like the low quality MCT China uses, but I don't think that makes me a snob.
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Not all, you are correct, but if you are around long enough and switch sources for whatever reason it will happen.

Those 3 you mentioned are definitely good and been around.

Not a snob, there is just a lot of fanboying and playing to the cool crowd at times.

Things have changed a lot and for the better. I remember shooting tren from fina pellets that had sediment in it, probably the stupid binders from the pellets or something. “You think this is ok? Sure, it’ll make you big!” painful gear from Mexico ugl’s, you really didn’t have much choice.
 
nidnoy said:
Not all, you are correct, but if you are around long enough and switch sources for whatever reason it will happen.

Those 3 you mentioned are definitely good and been around.

Not a snob, there is just a lot of fanboying and playing to the cool crowd at times.

Things have changed a lot and for the better. I remember shooting tren from fina pellets that had sediment in it, probably the stupid binders from the pellets or something. “You think this is ok? Sure, it’ll make you big!” painful gear from Mexico ugl’s, you really didn’t have much choice.
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I hear you man.

Sounds like you've been in the game about the same amount of time I have, as I'll have similar memories of Finaplix/component-th cartridges as well as Mexican UGL gear.
 
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