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Tren as a complete beginner
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BigDadd7
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Yes, it matters. How will you know how you respond to test, if you never run it solo? If you have a problem, how will you know which compound caused it? If you have success, how will you know which compound was responsible?
Imagine you never ate cheese or grapes. If you suddenly ate them both together and got constipated, how would you know which one caused it?
Respectfully, this is basic stuff. This question tells me you really haven't spent enough time reading and learning. I understand people hate hearing that, but it's true.
Less respectfully, tren straight up is retarded. If you do that, you deserve all the negative sides you get.
Imagine you never ate cheese or grapes. If you suddenly ate them both together and got constipated, how would you know which one caused it?
Respectfully, this is basic stuff. This question tells me you really haven't spent enough time reading and learning. I understand people hate hearing that, but it's true.
Less respectfully, tren straight up is retarded. If you do that, you deserve all the negative sides you get.
Slowww
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Post physic let’s see if you should do some tren bro. Youre probably big and shredded and totally need tren for your goal of doing a first cycle because 500mg of testosterone which works for guys around 200lbs who have been lifting for years wouldn’t work for you.
I don't want to become a bloated monster which is what most effective steroids do to you + I only plan to run it for a 2-3 cycles and do softer steroids after that
I m skinny af bro almost child-like weight. I've went to the gym for like a year and I don't look like I went in there for a day. I want 30 pounds of muscle per cycle
Bandern
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Everyone’s gonna tell you not to do it but they’re not accounting for the most important part of your first cycle:
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Yo go back to reddit bro
Bandern
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Or you could be a good little limp wristed twink and hold my pocket!
I’m not stuck in here posting with you, you’re stuck in here posting with me!
RockyP
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The irony is that it took me a long time to realize just how much 500 mg test is. I don't go above 350 nowadays. 500 test for a beginning should garner 30 lbs over 3 to 4 months if they know how to eat and train.
thanks I was looking for this
ChemBB
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You can take whatever the hell you want as your first "cycle".
It's your body and you're paying for it.
If you start with something that isn't _just_ Test though, then yeah, you won't have an understanding of how you respond to different Test dosages in terms of gains and side effects/overall feeling.
My first blast was 500 Test + 600 EQ + Dbol
If I could do it over again, I probably would have done 4-6 weeks of gradually increasing Test E doses:
250 -> 500 -> 750 -> 1,000
That's enough time for blood concentrations to reach near-peak and you to get a sense of how you react to each dose.
It's your body and you're paying for it.
If you start with something that isn't _just_ Test though, then yeah, you won't have an understanding of how you respond to different Test dosages in terms of gains and side effects/overall feeling.
My first blast was 500 Test + 600 EQ + Dbol
If I could do it over again, I probably would have done 4-6 weeks of gradually increasing Test E doses:
250 -> 500 -> 750 -> 1,000
That's enough time for blood concentrations to reach near-peak and you to get a sense of how you react to each dose.
BigDadd7
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You won't become a bloated monster, or even a regular monster, on a cycle of test. That's just something fat, ugly, out of shape people say. Tren might make you ugly. You don't see too many pretty boys on tren. Mostly grisly meatheads.
Don't be a moron. Run 12 weeks of t at 500. Pin it twice a week (250). Eat in a surplus and get your e2 checked after 4-5 weeks. In 12 weeks you will feel good and look better. Unless yoire already ugly, then you'll still be ugly.
I'm assuming you're in your mid 20s, and not some kid in diapers who wants to ruin his hormones for life by starting before his body and brain have finished maturing.
This is the same advice I give my own boys because I love them and want them be healthy and happy.
RockyP
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This is correct also.
If he's planning to run bloodwork (sounds like a big if) and he lets say gets a HCT level of 56 he wont know if it's from the test, tren, or both. Maybe he's a low aromatizer and can run 500 mg test with normal E2. Maybe his lipids will be fine and all other labs will be normal. But he'll never know if he starts with multiple drugs. It took me a long time to troubleshoot (making some of these same mistakes) that for whatever reason, test over 350 gets my HCT to high levels, but I can run 700+ mg total gear per week with lower test and have normal H/H numbers. Only figure that out with trial and error, getting lots of labs, and only changing one thing at a time.
Will this transition me into a girl tho?
BigDadd7
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BigDadd7
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You're already a girl.
Will I need isotretinoin for test alone?
Aight man that's not nice
BigDadd7
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You won't know until you run it. I never got bad acne from test. Some guys turn into a pizza. You will know after a month or so.
